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Offline horowitz_admirer

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New Piano Concerto?
on: January 27, 2023, 09:20:01 AM
Hello all

I have just learned Mozart 21 and am going to be playing it with an orchestra in about March-April time, but the question has arised in my head about which Concerto I should learn next, cause I've got a plan for solo piano repertoire but none for actual concertos. Does anyone have good suggestions for new concertos which are like maybe at the level of Mozart 21 or a little higher?

thanks a lot!!!

Current big Repertiore (so like not small pieces like waltzes and preludes):
Mozart Piano Concerto 21
Chopin Ballade no 1
Beethoven Sonata no 9 and Tempest (only first movement so far)
Rachmaninoff Prelude in C sharp minor and B minor (Op 3 no 2 and op 32 no 10)

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Re: New Piano Concerto?
Reply #1 on: January 27, 2023, 04:31:29 PM
How about Mozart's Concerto No. 24 in C minor?

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Re: New Piano Concerto?
Reply #2 on: January 27, 2023, 05:50:13 PM
If you are considering a step up in difficulty - consider the Beethoven 3rd piano concerto or possibly either of the Mendelsohn piano concertos.

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Henle edition Mozart #21 is listed as 6 difficulty
Henle edition Beethoven #3 is listed as 7 difficulty
Henle edition Mendelssohn #2 is listed as 8 difficulty

I suggest Beethoven #3 - GREAT music that is a step up in difficulty if you are looking for a step up.

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Re: New Piano Concerto?
Reply #3 on: January 27, 2023, 05:58:09 PM
This might not be a concerto by classic standards, but I think Gershwinís Rhapsody In Blue is an approachable piece that sounds quite nice when played with an orchestra. Itís a bit easier than Chopinís Ballade and I personally feel like itís at the same level as Beethovenís Tempest. Good luck with whatever repertoire you choose!  ;D
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Re: New Piano Concerto?
Reply #4 on: January 28, 2023, 12:04:23 AM
How about Mozart's Concerto No. 24 in C minor?

Another great piano concerto in C minor (as is Beethoven #3).   Henle also lists this as level 7 - same as Beethoven #3.  This is step up from Mozart No 21 that is level 6.

How accurate do you think the Henle levels are?  I noticed that beethoven #4 and #5 are also listed as level 7.  Both are gems, especially #4 IMO.  But these seem to be significantly harder than #3 - especially #5. 

BTW - Congratulations to OP for reaching the level to play with an orchestra - and good luck!   Be sure to post performance here if you want and are able.  :)

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Re: New Piano Concerto?
Reply #5 on: January 28, 2023, 09:59:57 AM
Another great piano concerto in C minor (as is Beethoven #3).   Henle also lists this as level 7 - same as Beethoven #3.  This is step up from Mozart No 21 that is level 6.

How accurate do you think the Henle levels are?  I noticed that beethoven #4 and #5 are also listed as level 7.  Both are gems, especially #4 IMO.  But these seem to be significantly harder than #3 - especially #5. 

BTW - Congratulations to OP for reaching the level to play with an orchestra - and good luck!   Be sure to post performance here if you want and are able.  :)

Thank you for the congratulations!!!

I remember last November, I'd just finished learning the Ballade after about a year, and decided I wanted a new challenge, so I looked around for intermediate concerti, and of course came across 21 and fell in love with it. I learnt the first movement in November/ early December then the second and third rest during my two weeks Christmas holiday. all my friends ask me how I learnt it in like 2.5 months but I did nothing but play piano, and specifically that piece in that given time, and during the two weeks I practiced like 11 hours a day lmao. But yeah, I am so excited to play with an orchestra, and imagine, this time two years ago I was the equivalent of Grade 7 (UK based exams) and just decided to throw myself into a bunch of hard pieces after becoming wholly inspired following the viewing of 'the Pianist' but yeah If it is indeed recorded I'll try and post a video here.

thanks a lot to everyone that responded!

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Re: New Piano Concerto?
Reply #6 on: January 28, 2023, 05:14:25 PM
Thank you for the congratulations!!!

I remember last November, I'd just finished learning the Ballade after about a year, and decided I wanted a new challenge, so I looked around for intermediate concerti, and of course came across 21 and fell in love with it. I learnt the first movement in November/ early December then the second and third rest during my two weeks Christmas holiday. all my friends ask me how I learnt it in like 2.5 months but I did nothing but play piano, and specifically that piece in that given time, and during the two weeks I practiced like 11 hours a day lmao. But yeah, I am so excited to play with an orchestra, and imagine, this time two years ago I was the equivalent of Grade 7 (UK based exams) and just decided to throw myself into a bunch of hard pieces after becoming wholly inspired following the viewing of 'the Pianist' but yeah If it is indeed recorded I'll try and post a video here.

thanks a lot to everyone that responded!

Sounds like great progress from your hard work!!  I took time to listen to Mozart #21, Mozart #24 and Beethoven #3 piano concertos just now.  I agree with Lelle's choice.  Mozart #24 seems to be the next logical step before going to Beethoven #3.  Look forward to hearing your performance and/or compositions.  Good luck! 

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Re: New Piano Concerto?
Reply #7 on: January 29, 2023, 12:09:14 PM
Sounds like great progress from your hard work!!  I took time to listen to Mozart #21, Mozart #24 and Beethoven #3 piano concertos just now.  I agree with Lelle's choice.  Mozart #24 seems to be the next logical step before going to Beethoven #3.  Look forward to hearing your performance and/or compositions.  Good luck!

Woah, I just realized you were the guy on my compositions page XD
Thanks for the support bro!!!
Im gonna record the preludes when I'm in school in the grand piano, to get the best quality.
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