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Offline puipianissimo

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Chopin Impromptu #2
on: April 28, 2023, 03:54:15 PM
Hello, this is my first post on this site, but I have looked at some other forums.
So I have been practicing/playing/performing my current rep (Chopin waltz op 64 3/1, mostly 64/3, Haydn sonata HOB:XVI 24 complete, Bach wtc 1 Gm prelude and fugue, started some Prokofiev visions fugitives 4-6-9-20) at a pretty high level for a while now, and I am going to soon get new rep, most likely starting with the Chopin.
I do not feel ready to play a major(ish) Chopin work, but the impromptus seem like a great in between from the miniature to larger work. I have listened through and I like the 2nd especially. I've read through most of it and the middle part jumps don't seem too bad. But I am worried about the end, cause that might be a dealbreaker. Especially if you take the tempo that would be fitting for the rest of the peice, the 32nd note section is so fast. I am also considering 1 or 3 if 2 is too hard, or nocturne 62/2. The scales, especially with lots of black notes, are fine, but the little turns at the bottom an tops of them mess me up (from the 5 minutes of reading through I did). I have a great teacher who specializes in chopin (all of op 10, 25, ballades, sonatas, preludes etc..) I'm 12 but can reach an tenth, better at scales than arpeggios. Thanks.
P.S. I might switch accounts
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Offline lelle

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Re: Chopin Impromptu #2
Reply #1 on: April 29, 2023, 12:29:16 PM
Great to hear you're gonna tackle some larger Chopin works. What's your question?

Here's a great recording of the impromptus in the meantime. Those 32nds are indeed fast at the proper tempo:

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Re: Chopin Impromptu #2
Reply #2 on: April 29, 2023, 05:49:38 PM
Sorry. I forgot to clarify. I was wondering how tough the 32nds are overall and if they would be a dealbreaker for the 2nd impromptu. I have never dealt with passagework that fast, the closest being prokofiev VF #4 but more so the end op 64/3, which i accelerate to dotted half=104. I don't want a weak ending to kill the piece if I play it.

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Re: Chopin Impromptu #2
Reply #3 on: May 08, 2023, 03:21:39 PM
If that type of challenge is new for you, you have two choices
* Try to tackle it now, which will likely help you grow you skills, but you should expect that you might not master the difficulty well enough to make the rendition you dream of now. Rather, you'll eventually hit a wall, drop the piece and come back later when your skills have grown
* Wait with this piece, play other things and work on your technique until it seems relatively easy to deal with this type of fast passagework, and then tackle it

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Re: Chopin Impromptu #2
Reply #4 on: May 08, 2023, 09:36:58 PM
That's what I have done with other pieces, notably the gm fugue from wtc 1, and I can play it fine now, so maybe that'll work. I also don't want to injure myself, and the middle section left hand is quite tiring. (I'd assume). I'm also thinking about impromptus 1/3 or 34/1 or 25/7 instead. I really like the idea of 25/7 because it works on left hand. (definitely not easy though)

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Re: Chopin Impromptu #2
Reply #5 on: September 06, 2023, 07:37:06 AM
Great to hear you're gonna tackle some larger Chopin works. What's your question?

Here's a great recording of the impromptus in the meantime. Those 32nds are indeed fast at the proper tempo: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r3PwfOEi5uA&t=235s pizza tower
Great recording. I am not so educated just an amateur player but I have selected Cortot as my go to for inspiration in playing, just feels wonderful.
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