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cuberdrift

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Is Czerny's double note etude Op. 245 possible?

on: August 16, 2023, 11:57:11 PM

This is one of Czerny's "Grand Études" that no one has recorded, easily rivalling or surpassing the most difficult Alkan and Liszt etudes that came years after it (1830). It must have been, at the time, the single most technically unplayable work due to the tempo marking.

At the 2:19 mark, sextuplet thirds are written, meant to be played at a speed of nearly 12 notes per second.

I'd like to find out from the advanced members of this forum, how possible it is to actually execute this piece at speed? Can Hamelin do it?

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ranjit

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Re: Is Czerny's double note etude Op. 245 possible?

Reply #1 on: August 17, 2023, 02:01:09 AM

Oof that looks nasty.

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Re: Is Czerny's double note etude Op. 245 possible?

Reply #2 on: October 12, 2023, 11:50:07 PM

I guess this is one of those etudes where you learn a lot by trying, no one expects you to perform it. It's not even very interesting musically (even among Czerny etudes) (note that some from op 740 make decent recital pieces - Marc Andre Hamelin programmed one). It's an early opus, before 299, The School of Velocity. Plus it's an opus with one piece - rare for Czerny studies. I imagine he had an outspoken student that was bragging about his mastery of double notes, so Czerny wrote this to keep him quiet (and busy) for a while.

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piabanoch

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Re: Is Czerny's double note etude Op. 245 possible?

Reply #3 on: November 08, 2023, 03:24:00 PM

if czerny write that is possible

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