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Offline mamioletto

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Tuning Instablity in new piano
on: November 02, 2023, 02:11:09 AM
Hi. A few years ago I bought a good brand piano (CBechstein vertical). Sound is good but I've never managed to be happy with its tuning stability. When I get it tuned it takes just a weeks to need another tuning. My retailer hasn't been able to help. I compare it with my old 1980's vertical Schimmel that sits at my parents' poorly insulated apartment whose tuning can remain pleasant for years and is worth less than one tenth! Can anyone relate?

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Re: Tuning Instablity in new piano
Reply #1 on: November 02, 2023, 02:22:59 PM
I have been told by my tuners that if you haven't tuned for a while, the piano's tuning will be more unstable. Not sure if that should last several years though.

Offline johnlewisgrant

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Re: Tuning Instablity in new piano
Reply #2 on: November 21, 2023, 11:49:28 PM
C. Bechstein makes VERY NICE uprights.  I bit the bullet and purchased "PIATUNE," a piano tuning app that works with my Iphone.  It's fun, and (in my view) is more accurate than most piano tuners. It's a professional level tuning app and, for myself, I prefer it to the super-expensive apps.  Cheaper and more powerful.

Re stability, you MUST have constant RH (45-50 ish) or not only will that beautiful upright not stay in tune it will quickly surrender to the elements.  Also, a new instrument, if kept in tune, is more likely to STAY in tune with less effort down the road.  Once the tuning app creates a file for your specific piano, and once you are happy with the measurements, you simply adjust notes from time to time, as necessary, using the app.

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Re: Tuning Instablity in new piano
Reply #3 on: November 23, 2023, 01:22:52 PM
If the piano is of decent quality, and yours would seem to be, then stability is mostly dependent on the skill of the tuner. 

It's not just getting the string to pitch, it's not even mostly getting the string to pitch.  It's setting the pin so it stays there. 
Tim

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Re: Tuning Instablity in new piano
Reply #4 on: November 23, 2023, 04:32:00 PM
If the piano is of decent quality, and yours would seem to be, then stability is mostly dependent on the skill of the tuner. 

It's not just getting the string to pitch, it's not even mostly getting the string to pitch.  It's setting the pin so it stays there. 
Tim

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Re: Tuning Instablity in new piano
Reply #5 on: December 10, 2023, 05:16:31 PM
Hello,

chances are higher that you have a bad tuner than a bad new Bechstein. Switch your tuner.

Is your piano standing against an inside wall (recommended)? Is there any "wind" blowing? of course humidity should be 50-55. See what Bechstein recommends. Is there direct sunlight? Do you bang the piano ?

If none of these are true switch tuner and ask the next one what he/she  thinks about the pins.

Regards,
G.

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Re: Tuning Instablity in new piano
Reply #6 on: December 21, 2024, 10:07:51 AM
Thx for your reply. Over the years I've already tried several different tuners, including the certified retailer, but without success. It's true that room humidity isn't the ideal 50% flat and can fluctuate between 50% and 70%. However, this still falls within the recommended range of 40% to 70% as per the instructions. So Still in trouble  :(

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