Critism

[pianoplayer51]

I have started to colaborate my own music.  Ive just done a short piece and recorded it and showed a friend.  She said it was awful and depressinr.  I was ma8nly using notes in the lower register and was happy with it.  My former teacher realy liked it.  My friend daid it sounded like all i was doing was hitting keys very heavi.  It sounds similar to bach chalconne which is low notes.  I showed her a youtube of someone playing the bach piece and again she said she hated it as it was very boring and she likes strauss music which is not heavy and depressing.  each To their own but was she rude to day mine was awful.  She said its only worth 1 out of 10.   

[themeandvariation]

Perhaps you were looking for encouragement, which is understandable, but if you're truly interested in their response, their honesty is the most valuable thing. A fake response (trying to appease you) is useless.
Why not post the piece here to see what others may say?

[pianoplayer51]

I don't post pieces on here I prefer not to if you listen to the bark piece that I put up the name of you will hear that that is also very heavy handed I don't understand why my x teacher loved it but my friend didn't my friend does not even like classical music so she's really no judge at all

[pianoplayer51]

Please watch bach caconnr and you will hear what my piece sounds like and you havent said whyyou think my yeacher liked it against my friends view.  Which is the more honest opinion

[themeandvariation]

How would I know why your teacher liked it? Why don't you ask them?
I cannot offer a view on your piece if you don't post it. It may to you sound like Bach, but You are not Bach.
What's your fear of posting it? never mind.....  Carry on, kid. Goodluck.

[lelle]

Here's the thing:

Different people like different things.

When you create music, and show it to people, some people are going to like it, and others wont. I know critiscism sucks, but you are going to get it no matter what you write, and it doesn't dictate the worth of you or even your composition. A lot of people love pop music, but some people hate it. Ultimately, it's up to you if you are happy with your work or not.

You can't please everyone, no matter what you write. I like music from this genre, most people likely hate it:

(Oh and if your friend is rude when giving feedback, consider not showing your pieces to her anymore!)

[pianoplayer51]

I am not a kid.  I dont like being referred as such

[lostinidlewonder]

Who knows you are not posting the work so we can't tell if your teacher is just being polite and your friend is just saying how it is, or etc. When it comes to art you can't please everyone. It seem you are not well prepared to handlle critique or believe erroneously anything you do must be ubiquitously admired. Not sharing your work makes me think you are the former but exposing yourself to what makes you uncomfortable is good therapy especially with this case and constructive critique can help you improve.

[pianoplayer51]

In order for me to post music i would have to convert my music to youtube as i record on my phone

[pianoplayer51]

I think it is easier for me to post my playing to anybody in a personal message rather than on this side so if anybody would like to hear and give me some feedback I can send it to them personally somebody did make a request and I sent it to them personally but they never came back to me and I don't think they ever came back to look but if you would like to hear my peace and tell me what you think I can send it to whoever you are personally please do let me know

[pianoplayer51]

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[pianoplayer51]

Here is my piece

[keypeg]

Your friend likes Strauss.  Your piece doesn't sound anything like Strauss.  Therefore your friend doesn't like it because for them to like it, it has to sound like Strauss.    Your teacher, otoh, could help you bring it to another level, or tell you why they like about it, and whatnot.

Years ago I had worked hard on a piece that was difficult for me to play, my teacher was pleased with it, and it was not a usual stereotypical kind of piece.  While out of town I visited some people who had a piano, and they invited me to play.  I played that piece and they listened politely.  I played Fuer Elise, which I had learned to play as a self-taught teen before not having a piano for 35 years.  It was not played well, sort of 'emoting'.  The wife closed her eyes and started gently rocking and humming; husband held wife and they seemed moved.  The reason was because it was a familiar piece they loved and could relate to.  The other piece which I knew I had played very well, meant nothing to them.  I guarantee the F.E. was not played well.  I'd not touched it for decades.

[pianoplayer51]

You're reply was quite long but do you have not actually said what you thought about my peace did you like it did you not like it I have no idea because all you said was that my friend didn't like it because she likes Strauss you did not tell me your opinion

[pianoplayer51]

My friend also likes Viennese waltzes but I cannot bear to listen to that type of music

[pianoplayer51]

Here is one of my favourite pieces of music.  I adore this

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[pianoplayer51]

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My other collaborations

[lostinidlewonder]

i=OkfP3dpbh_LpDF-W [/youtube]

It sounds more like improvising or playing about than a constructed piece.

[keypeg]

You're reply was quite long but do you have not actually said what you thought about my peace did you like it did you not like it I have no idea because all you said was that my friend didn't like it because she likes Strauss you did not tell me your opinion

Your concern was about your teacher liking it and your friend not liking it.  So that's what I answered.

[pianoplayer51]

But then i posted videos of my pieces to see what people here thought of my collaborations

[pianoplayer51]

Id be grateful if u can listen and give your opinion on my playing

[pianoplayer51]

Nothing wrong wirh improvising

[lostinidlewonder]

Nothing wrong wirh improvising

Absolutely nothing wrong. Though consider critique of improv which is just spontaneous vs critique of carefully planned composition, getting criticised for an improv really isn't that bad since it took you no time to create it.

Fwiw maybe your lh needs more work, you use very generic chords and progressions, it's rather simplistic, it's a good starting point but it offers nothing really inspiring.

[pianoplayer51]

Please can someo e listen to my two videos and give an opinion on my collaborations. Why cant anyone do this

[pianoplayer51]

I will keep aski g until someone gives feedback or i will remove them

[cornflakes]

I like it.

[themeandvariation]

Ok. In the first video, it starts off in Eminor, with some related chords, with the somber melody which works.
Then modulates at around 35 seconds to B minor. You could offer more development  in the LH, but I think it works OK. Near the end, you seem to want to start another section which is a bit faster, but then it just concludes quite quickly.  It sounds like you are just starting to experiment with composing, and you have some ideas which could be developed further.
The second video, it seems, has the first half pretty much fully taken from Gounod's version of Bach's Prelude #1 WTC, though simplified. It can be useful to imitate pieces that inspire you to get started composing. The second half, where you deviate from the source material, I don't find very interesting.
I would say, keep experimenting , especially if you enjoy the process.

[pianoplayer51]

Thanks for your comments.very helpful

[pianoplayer51]

I have put up a video of a professional pianist playing bach

[pianoplayer51]

The first two movements are slow-ish and final movement is very fast I would like to learn how to achieve fast playing but you have to do it in stages and see how it goes

[pianocavs]

I have followed your piece very carefully, and I sincerely believe that you should be proud of it.
I really liked it, and I hope you will continue to express yourself on the piano with your own original pieces.
I certainly disagree with your friend when she said its only worth 1 out of 10.
Its worth much more to me.

[pianistavt]

Regarding the video of your piece:
It is solemn, contemplative, on the brink of sadness but not quite over the edge.  A very interesting mood.  The musical line is quite evocative.  The second theme, with the quicker notes, was too brief, it should be about as long as the first section, to create an equal balance, it also ended abruptly, not sure I even heard a clear cadence.  I would keep working on it, it's worth the time and effort you have put into it. 

Remember, an artist, writer, composer mustn't get caught up in what others think of their creations - they need to be true to their inner creative spirit.

[pianoplayer51]

Thank you for your very kind and helpful comments

[pianoplayer51]

I think when my friend only gave me one out of ten it's not because she didn't like the tune it is because she does not like music played at a low octave so I played the same tune again one octave higher and she said it was lovely but playing one octave higher sounded wrong to me but that's just the Way It Is she does not like music played on a piano at the lower end of the keyboard like for example chopans Funeral March interview play the same funeral march one or two octaves higher she will say she likes it I mean the range of notes on a piano keyboard are there for a reason and lower notes have to be played but she hates them

[geopianoincanada]

i=OkfP3dpbh_LpDF-W [/youtube]

I thought it was alright. I rather enjoy pieces which are a little moody, a little melancholy feeling without being overbearing, like an overcast day which guards you against the blazing hot sun. You took your time and didn't rush things.