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Offline dizzyfingers

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quality of PF post monitoring
on: October 17, 2024, 11:58:34 AM
What are the rules around posts?
What is the quality of the moderation of posts?

Looking at some of the very old posts - people were really insulting toward each other, lots of cat fights.  That was another age of the online experience, people felt free to be their worst selves with a cloak of anonymity.  Things are different now.  Many of the forums from the 2010's are replaced now by FB groups, I'm active there and I can tell you they are tightly moderated by the group admins and by FB.  Any kind of personal attack is not tolerated.
That's not my impression here. 

What are your experiences here?

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Re: quality of PF post monitoring
Reply #1 on: October 17, 2024, 03:50:35 PM
You've posted 7 posts here, so what impression are you getting from that?

Tbh I've not seen anything as harsh as you are trying to present. Censorship should only go so far, nothing wrong with heated debates, the world has gone all soft. FB groups are no better, maybe you prefer that passive aggressive sarcasm that bypasses direct insults, plenty of that on FB. Or perhaps 2 faced fakery is the flavour of today, pretend to be nice but underneath it all is no genuine interaction.
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Re: quality of PF post monitoring
Reply #2 on: October 17, 2024, 04:02:32 PM
For example, on the post "What was the publics initial reaction to Liszt transcendental etudes"?
Someone responded to my post:  "Not Helpful. At All."
Same person responded to my second post on the topic:  "What does this add to the conversation?"

Why undermine someone's contribution to a topic?  It focuses on the poster rather than the topic.  It's mean and trite.

That's mild to what I see in some of the old posts.  If you want some examples I can find some.  Lots of personal attacks.

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Re: quality of PF post monitoring
Reply #3 on: October 18, 2024, 06:22:51 AM
For example, on the post "What was the publics initial reaction to Liszt transcendental etudes"?
Someone responded to my post:  "Not Helpful. At All."
Same person responded to my second post on the topic:  "What does this add to the conversation?"

Why undermine someone's contribution to a topic?  It focuses on the poster rather than the topic.  It's mean and trite.
Your response was a chatbot copy paste  so the "unhelpful" remark is pointing out that the info from that chatbot was unhelpful to the ops question. If that's an "attack" to you I think that your interpretation is being rather melodramatic.

That's mild to what I see in some of the old posts.  If you want some examples I can find some.  Lots of personal attacks.
I've been here almost 20 years I know there have been heated debates. Just because someone critiques an opinion harshly doesn't mean it's a personal attack. And if someone is acting irrationally must we walk around eggshells and let them throw their tantrums? Sure some people avoid confrontations becsuse they can't cope with it but that should not limit the freedom of others who choose otherwise.
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Re: quality of PF post monitoring
Reply #4 on: October 18, 2024, 01:12:24 PM
Your response was a chatbot copy paste  so the "unhelpful" remark is pointing out that the info from that chatbot was unhelpful to the ops question. If that's an "attack" to you I think that your interpretation is being rather melodramatic.
I've been here almost 20 years I know there have been heated debates. Just because someone critiques an opinion harshly doesn't mean it's a personal attack. And if someone is acting irrationally must we walk around eggshells and let them throw their tantrums? Sure some people avoid confrontations becsuse they can't cope with it but that should not limit the freedom of others who choose otherwise.

I guess you're right but I still think the monitoring is below par, and the level of civility is way way below par compared to facebook.  Obviously I can stay or go.

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Re: quality of PF post monitoring
Reply #5 on: October 18, 2024, 11:12:31 PM

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Re: quality of PF post monitoring
Reply #6 on: December 04, 2024, 01:40:03 PM
This place is definitely moderated but not dictatorially so. You can always report offending posts. In my experience they are often taken care of.

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Reply #7 on: December 18, 2024, 02:50:30 AM
I find no problem with this site.  Fwiw, I am moderator and admin on another site.  These are volunteer positions that can be time consuming, thankless, and unpleasant.  Most of us are here as freebies, paying nothing.

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Re: quality of PF post monitoring
Reply #8 on: December 18, 2024, 03:52:40 AM
For example, on the post "What was the publics initial reaction to Liszt transcendental etudes"?
Someone responded to my post:  "Not Helpful. At All."

I went to the thread, and could not find that response.  You were open about the fact of using chatbot.  That said, I'm mystified about the choice of posting those things, because none of it addressed the actual question.  In that sense I can understand the now disappeared reaction, which imho is also not a personal attack, as it refers to ideas, not persons.

My own view about chatbot is that in a forum I want to have a real conversation, with real people, and with their own real thoughts.  Maybe their feelings and realness is part of that too.  I'm seeing way too much AI with perfect grammar, perfect syntax, perfect form, and an absolute emptiness of personality.  If this is the way it goes, then I'll probably start disappearing.
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