Bucket list works?

[dizzyfingers]

Of course many pianists are organists, and all organists are pianists.

Such a sweeping generalization can't go unchallenged.

Many organists play piano, some, probably few (20%?), organists are PIANISTS (i.e. are committed to playing the repertoire well and understand the instrument deeply)
Many organists who try to play piano, like Chopin or Prokofiev (not that they would bother with this composer), play the piano badly (in my experience).
"Many pianists are organists"?  Maybe in your little domain, Cambridge or Oxford England. 
The pianists who are mentioned on this forum - the recognizable names and the competitors in the competitions - do no play the organ.

I hope you know about this site:   https://organforum.com/forums/

[dizzyfingers]

There are way too many pieces, from canon to recondite deep cuts…I don’t think i’ll be able to stop going on about it! My perpetual repertoire desiderata against reality!

2. Moszkowski - Étude Op. 72/13
3. Prokofiev - Scherzo Op. 12/10
4. Prokofiev - Étude Op. 2/4

Thanks for mentioning Moskowski op 72.  Number 13 is a compelling etude, quite difficult.
Prokofiev op 2 is getting more attention now.  I could easily have number 1 on my bucket list.  Num 4 is exciting, classic Prokofiev, as is the Scherzo 12/10.  I'm surprised we're not seeing more Prokofiev on this list - Suggestion Diabolique, Toccata, Sonata 7, some people aspire to play the cadenza from PC 2 1st mv, though they never intend to play the entire work.

[essence]

Point taken re. organ. I myself certainly focus more on piano than organ. But at times in my life opportunity to play in public comes more often from the organ.

Apologies if I posted in the wrong thread - but I still think that in general pianists should have a broad understanding of music, and in particular they may be interested in Liszt, who wrote for both piano and organ, as well of course for orchestra.

[dizzyfingers]

Maybe someone should create a post on the notable organist-pianist composers:  Franck, Messiaen, Mendelssohn, and their works.

[essence]

Good idea. I would add Liszt, Brahms and Bach, of course.

[ash120]

Thanks for mentioning Moskowski op 72.  Number 13 is a compelling etude, quite difficult.
Prokofiev op 2 is getting more attention now.  I could easily have number 1 on my bucket list.  Num 4 is exciting, classic Prokofiev, as is the Scherzo 12/10.  I'm surprised we're not seeing more Prokofiev on this list - Suggestion Diabolique, Toccata, Sonata 7, some people aspire to play the cadenza from PC 2 1st mv, though they never intend to play the entire work.

   

Dizzyfingers!! So the first time I heard Op. 72 no. 13...all it sounded like was a random lovely, expressive, ✨sparkling✨ piece in A-flat minor, it was only later until I realized that it was one of Moszkowski's harder etudes from his Op. 72 set.
As for the Prokofiev selections, I have played Suggestion Diabolique - I love the first half of the piece, after that it gets a little too dissonant. But nevertheless, it IS an amazing piece. Toccata is nice but I haven't heard his sonatas. I'll check them out.
Recently I found Tausig's Introduction + Tarantella (Op. 2) and have been listening to that one on repeat, definitely gonna read through that when I have time. So one more piece added to my wish list
As I'm a normal 15 yr old, my liszt list ...will never end and I don't have the time for anything

[liszt-and-the-galops]

As for the Prokofiev selections, I have played Suggestion Diabolique - I love the first half of the piece, after that it gets a little too dissonant.

No such thing. ;)

On an semi-related note, favorite movements from Albeniz's Iberia? Personally:
Almería (no. 5 / Book II no. 2
Triana (no. 6 / Book II no. 3)
El Albaicín (no. 7 / Book III no. 1)
Lavapiés (no. 9 / Book III no. 3)
Eritaña (no. 12 / Book IV no. 3)

[dizzyfingers]

Dizzyfingers!! So the first time I heard Op. 72 no. 13...all it sounded like was a random lovely, expressive, ✨sparkling✨ piece in A-flat minor, it was only later until I realized that it was one of Moszkowski's harder etudes from his Op. 72 set.  As for the Prokofiev selections, I have played Suggestion Diabolique - I love the first half of the piece, after that it gets a little too dissonant. But nevertheless, it IS an amazing piece. Toccata is nice but I haven't heard his sonatas. I'll check them out.  Recently I found Tausig's Introduction + Tarantella (Op. 2) and have been listening to that one on repeat, definitely gonna read through that when I have time. So one more piece added to my wish list    As I'm a normal 15 yr old, my liszt list ...will never end and I don't have the time for anything

Thanks for additional info - you're enthusiasm is contagious.

As for getting perturbed by dissonance in S.D., we'll chalk that up to your young age, your tastes will go through many phases down the road.

Yes, it's easier for lists to grow than shrink ...

[russmpiano]

   

Dizzyfingers!! So the first time I heard Op. 72 no. 13...all it sounded like was a random lovely, expressive, ✨sparkling✨ piece in A-flat minor, it was only later until I realized that it was one of Moszkowski's harder etudes from his Op. 72 set.
As for the Prokofiev selections, I have played Suggestion Diabolique - I love the first half of the piece, after that it gets a little too dissonant. But nevertheless, it IS an amazing piece. Toccata is nice but I haven't heard his sonatas. I'll check them out.
Recently I found Tausig's Introduction + Tarantella (Op. 2) and have been listening to that one on repeat, definitely gonna read through that when I have time. So one more piece added to my wish list
As I'm a normal 15 yr old, my liszt list ...will never end and I don't have the time for anything

Glad to see a fellow young pianist! I really like Prok 7 and Prok 2 (I have boring taste). I’m going to listen to the other war sonatas soon. I’ve also heavily enjoyed Love for Three Oranges and I’ve (attempted) to learn a bit of it. Prokofiev is a composer I need to listen to more though.

[dizzyfingers]

Prokofiev is a composer I need to listen to more though.

More than other other subsequent composer, Prokofiev is the inheritor of Beethoven's piano sonata baton - he wrote 9 piano sonatas, a 10th was being drafted when he passed.  They're in sonata form (with modern twists), they focus on thematic development.   Any serious pianist should be familiar with them, especially 6,7,8.
The March from L.f.T.O. was my first Prokofiev piece.  Make sure you use the metronome.  And if you can't handle a jump or interval, just modify it, keeping a strict march tempo is paramount.  Prokofiev often writes from a composer's standpoint, not a pianist's, plus he had incredible technical ability, "fingers of steel".

[quino-lane]

Currently, my main "end-goal" is Liszt's S. 139 version of Mazeppa.

Le Festin d'Esope (Alkan) is another one that I eventually want to reach. That's even further away, though.

me too bro

[ash120]

More than other other subsequent composer, Prokofiev is the inheritor of Beethoven's piano sonata baton - he wrote 9 piano sonatas, a 10th was being drafted when he passed.  They're in sonata form (with modern twists), they focus on thematic development.   Any serious pianist should be familiar with them, especially 6,7,8.

I like no. 6! Fun fact - Prokofiev's teachers (e.g. Kabalevsky) called him "talented but immature."

[dizzyfingers]

I like no. 6! Fun fact - Prokofiev's teachers (e.g. Kabalevsky) called him "talented but immature."

That wasn't Kabalevsky, who is actually younger than Prokofiev, and idolized his musical style.

That was one of P's teacher's at the conservatory - the quote is mentioned in this biography:

[russmpiano]

More than other other subsequent composer, Prokofiev is the inheritor of Beethoven's piano sonata baton - he wrote 9 piano sonatas, a 10th was being drafted when he passed.  They're in sonata form (with modern twists), they focus on thematic development.   Any serious pianist should be familiar with them, especially 6,7,8.
The March from L.f.T.O. was my first Prokofiev piece.  Make sure you use the metronome.  And if you can't handle a jump or interval, just modify it, keeping a strict march tempo is paramount.  Prokofiev often writes from a composer's standpoint, not a pianist's, plus he had incredible technical ability, "fingers of steel".

Thank you for the advice. What recording of the war sonatas do you recommend?

[liszt-and-the-galops]

Thank you for the advice. What recording of the war sonatas do you recommend?

Not who you're responding to, but personally I like Richter's the most.

[dizzyfingers]

I really like Prok 7 and Prok 2 (I have boring taste).
Prokofiev is a composer I need to listen to more though.

Nothing boring about sonata 7.  It's become Prokofiev's signature piano work. 
Nothing boring about 2 either, though it's less visionary than 7.  The 3rd movement is Prokofiev at his best.
I would recommend listening to op 12.  The prelude is a reasonable gateway into Prokofiev's music.

[thorn]

The only Prok sonata (or any other piece by him) I've played is 4. I love the 2nd and 3rd mvts especially.

No such thing. ;)

On an semi-related note, favorite movements from Albeniz's Iberia? Personally:
Almería (no. 5 / Book II no. 2
Triana (no. 6 / Book II no. 3)
El Albaicín (no. 7 / Book III no. 1)
Lavapiés (no. 9 / Book III no. 3)
Eritaña (no. 12 / Book IV no. 3)

Iberia is a bucket list work for me. I've played quite a few in amateur settings (1,2,4-8,11) but then life got in the way. El Albaicin and Jerez are my favourites.

[anacrusis]

More than other other subsequent composer, Prokofiev is the inheritor of Beethoven's piano sonata baton - he wrote 9 piano sonatas, a 10th was being drafted when he passed.  They're in sonata form (with modern twists), they focus on thematic development.   Any serious pianist should be familiar with them, especially 6,7,8.
The March from L.f.T.O. was my first Prokofiev piece.  Make sure you use the metronome.  And if you can't handle a jump or interval, just modify it, keeping a strict march tempo is paramount.  Prokofiev often writes from a composer's standpoint, not a pianist's, plus he had incredible technical ability, "fingers of steel".

Absolutely, a lot of Prokofiev is fiendishly difficult. Great music too. I have only played the 7th sonata but need to learn more of his pieces. Do you have any personal favorites? I'm eyeing the Suggestion Diabolique and Sonatas 3 & 4.

[ash120]

As I predicted — new additions:

1. Cécile Chaminade — Caprice-Impromptu
2. Prokofiev — Sonata nos. 2 and 6
3. Liszt — Venezia e Napoli (Tarantella)
4. Gottschalk — Tarantella Op. 67
5. Tausig — Introduction + Tarantella (Op. 2)

[dizzyfingers]

The only Prok sonata (or any other piece by him) I've played is 4. I love the 2nd and 3rd mvts especially.

Number 4 is an unusual one-and-only choice for a Prokofiev sonata.  It's in the least played group.  Such a somber 1st mvmt.  I'll have to listen to the 2nd and 3rd again.

[real_piano._.potato]

As I predicted — new additions:

1. Cécile Chaminade — Caprice-Impromptu
2. Prokofiev — Sonata nos. 2 and 6
3. Liszt — Venezia e Napoli (Tarantella)
4. Gottschalk — Tarantella Op. 67
5. Tausig — Introduction + Tarantella (Op. 2)

i think you like tarantellas?

[thorn]

Number 4 is an unusual one-and-only choice for a Prokofiev sonata.  It's in the least played group.  Such a somber 1st mvmt.  I'll have to listen to the 2nd and 3rd again.

The 2nd mvt is what drew me to this sonata, I heard it as part of the composer's piano rolls (linked). And the sonata is dedicated to Schmidthof which explains the mood- particularly in the 1st and 2nd mvts, but even the more extroverted mvt 3 feels like an emotional struggle rather than a resolution. My favourite recording is Boris Berman's. 

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