pianonut talking to herself

[Skeptopotamus]

hey i resent that comment pianonut!  you said that men think they control death, insinuating that women dont think they control death, when i think it is entirely probably that women also control death.  I really dont get that comment at all.  I mean, are you saying women are better than men because they arent conceited by thinking they can control something that they obviously cant which is death?  or that women are weaker because they cant control something that men can control which is death?  i guess it depends on whether or not you think humans can control death is all.  I mean, if we built a time machine we could control death for sure, but who do you think would invent the time machine?  i mean like most of the great physisists of the day are men, and if we use sheer probability then it would most likely be a man who controls death.  But does that really count?  i mean couldnt a woman from the future come into the past and give it to a woman so that that woman would have seemed to invent the time machine, therefore making it seem as though a woman controlled death?  Or when we do have time machines couldnt you just use it to give it to a woman and make it so that a woman controlled death?  would you really do that?  would you really take the thunder away from whoever actually invented the time machine, which we have already discerned will most likely be a man if we are to guess using probability?  the answer is no, you wouldnt, because it is impossible to travel back in time because if you go back in time to set out to do something, then in the future when you would have gone back in time to do it then it would have already been done and you wouldnt have gone back in time to do it in the first place.  But that means that neither men or women can control death VIA a time machine, so there must be another way to control death, or i will have just wasted everyone's, including my own, time by talking about all this.  and everybody knows that i do love to waste people's time, so i guess it's good either way.  well it's really not fair to say that everybody knows.  it's obvious that some people wouldnt know.  actually it is most likely that most people dont know, by either not being able to have read that or simply not having read it for reasons that are entirely different.  i mean i certainly cant blame babies for not knowing.  they cant read.  you know i saw something on TV about a 3 year old that could read very complex writing.  i guess saying the only people to know that i enjoy wasting people's time are those that read it is also not necissarily true.  some people could have simply inferred it by talking to me, seeing me talking, talking to other people that inferred it, read it, saw me talking, talked to me, guessed or used psychic abilites and trusting them, guessing or using psychic abilities.  But i dont know if i would trust that friend if it was based solely on a guess, but then again i doubt they would tell me it was based solely on a guess, so i suppose i would trust the,m but now thinking about it i would not know if it was based solely on a guess, and i would be hesitant, but still most likely believe them as i am a trusting person.

[pianonut]

have no fear.  it's already happening.  in macrobiotics!  although she runs around in caves with a merry band of five male undergraduates, she will soon control death.  she recently went into the field of cave exploration for the purpose of finding new antibiotics.  (most of the antibiotics today are derived from a soil based order of germs known as acitomycetales...but their frequent mixture within humans along with their ability to swap dna with other species, make it easy for them to spread aquired resisitance).  ok.  this woman wants to help eliminate various strains of diseases like meningitis and pneumonia (in women only - just kidding) that could mutate to the point that all our available therapies are ineffective.  so, she and her merry men go looking in caves (and she has successfully found 111 new species) when only 5 new species of extremophile microorganisms have been found in the amazon rain forest. 

she is now in the next phase.  the results won't be known for another year.  the last stage will be to test the new antibiotics againt malevolent microbes like anthrax (of course a man developed that!) to see how effective it will be against combating disease.  once women rule the world...peace will be certain.  (just kidding, of course).  actually, i think women can be meaner to each other and nicer to men.    

[pianonut]

skeptotomus,  the truth of the matter is that i was referring to 'mankind.'  the fact that there are now women judges, and women in many areas of government gives us enough voice i think.  i do not wish for a woman president (although if she were well educated and thought deeply about matters - i suppose it could be as happy of an outcome as other 'royalty' such as the queen beatrice (forget exactly what country-but in netherlands).  she favors the arts - being a painter herself - and likes to have a clean country, beautiful, with lots of flowers, and generally happy constituents.

i suppose what God orginally intended is better, though.  i hadn't listened to haydn's 'creation' ever (all the way through).  since we are studying it for class, i was listening on the way down to my cd with george bernard shaw's chorale.  when they got to the part 'she loves him--bliss- and whatever else they were singing' i started imagining just two people in a garden with no distractions.  i don't think they would care who was in charge - as long as someone took charge.  of course, God told the woman she was taken out of man.  which is an interesting thought that God had.  to take a rib out of man (i wonder if Adam hurt for awhile afterwards, thus making his bliss a little less than hers).  why a rib?  i do think men suffer a lot for the women they love.  i suppose in an 'ideal' world, women would trust men, and men women, so they wouldn't really be fighting for jobs or income.  it would be a shared investment.  i think this happens in a good marriage. 

[Skeptopotamus]

hey pianonut you used a ( and then another ( inside it but only closed with one )


naughy naughty,

[pianonut]

help.  you sound like my professor.  he gave us all 'a brief guide to writing a research or term paper' and said if we don't use it, it will affect our grade.  he doesn't know that my husband used to be a librarian and proof reads anything i would turn in as a final project.  he helps me use spell check, and is fastidious about writing.  me, i just write what comes into my head. unfortunate, though it may be, i just extemporize on previously known facts and blend them all together into a concoction.  i like to surprise people with connections.  like how you connected ice cream, frozen yogurt, and toppings of nuts with flavored ideas.  and, actually started pondering how to make frozen yogurt.  we'll make that a separate topic under fast recipies.  i think you can find them in the toy store (frozen yogurt makers).

[Skeptopotamus]

how can one be allergic to dust?  i mean, it isnt really something.  it's like lots of stuff.  it's probably something that's just in the dust.  or it is just annoying your nose hair.  my grandpa has lots of nose hair.  too much if you ask me.  same with ear hair.  but then again who am i to say what is too much and too little?  well i think most would agree with me when i say it is too much ear and nose hair.  would you agree with me just to agree with me?  or ague with me just to argue with me?  i like to do that some times, even if i know im wrong.  it's fun and funny and annoys the other person and wastes their time.

[pianonut]

believe it or not, i don't like to waste time (especially other people's).  with the weather being inclement and my three year old needing lots of attention, the pianoforum is my sanity during the day.  my husband has lots of coworkers to talk to at work.  i, on the other hand, am bored.  it's not that i don't have friend.  it's just that they invite me to tupperwear parties and evenings of drinks and hor'dorves (ok misspelled) - when really what i want tonight is to go to martha argerich's performance at the kimmel center.  (i just can't seem to drive there without getting lost- and don't want my husband to rush me like last time).

about the nose hairs.  my 10 year old daughter informed me several years ago that i had some.  so, horrified, promptly cut them.  ever since then, i have been sneezing a lot.  i don' mean a litttle bit.  i mean a lot.  if the sun comes out- i sneeze.  if someone plays a dusty piano - i sneeze.  it's even caused mild reactions of unbreathability in the recital hall of wcu (where dust covers the air vents).  so, i live in a bubble.  i clean the carpets, the pianos, everything.  the only thing i haven't done is get rid of the cat.  how can i.  she's been in the family 15 years.  you can't just get rid of a pet because you are allergic to them.  (she wonders why i don't pet her as much). 

[Siberian Husky]

holy crap, its interesting how threads just mutate themselves...especially in the "Anything but piano" forum...

[bernhard]

of course, God told the woman she was taken out of man.  which is an interesting thought that God had.  to take a rib out of man (i wonder if Adam hurt for awhile afterwards, thus making his bliss a little less than hers).  why a rib?  i do think men suffer a lot for the women they love.  i suppose in an 'ideal' world, women would trust men, and men women, so they wouldn't really be fighting for jobs or income.  it would be a shared investment.  i think this happens in a good marriage. 

It was genetic engineering. The Bible writers did not really understand what God was showing to them. S/He showed them: here is how I did woman out of man. And what they saw was god breaking a rib out of man and implanting it in a woman.

What actually was going on was an electron microscope view of God breaking down one of man’s X chromosomes and implanting it into a (future) woman’s cell. Since the guys who wrote the Bible did not really understand about microscopes, they did not realise that they were looking at pictures enlarged hundred of thousands of times.

Back home, the one writing said: what did God called that rib-like thing? “Chromosomes”. “How do you spell that?” “Beats me, just write down ribs, people will figure out, it doesn’t really matter.”

Anyway, this is the reason why women have two X chromosomes and man have only one, the Y chromosome being what was left after God broke it.

There are of course some heretics who claim that there was no God, that it was actually aliens doing genetic experiments on monkeys. But I guess this belongs on the religious threads.

Best wishes,
Bernhard.

[Torp]

I didn't know Bernhard was just another voice in your head.

Wow, and that voice speaks such truth too.  Hooda thunk.

Torp

[pianonut]

why didn't God do this with the animals?  that proves He doesn't HAVE to do any genetic engineering.  He just says the Word and it is so.  But, with man, he was proving a point, i think.  He was saying, look at your relationship as different than the animals.  Be joined together "bone of bones and flesh of flesh..."  and this is the reason there is the idea of marriage.  The other way would prove that marriage is unnecessary and that being faithful to one partner is not faithful to our 'animal nature.' 

ok.  i know this belongs under religious topics,too!  Probably a religious forum.  But, i can't help but point people to Joel Osteen.  Sometimes I look at life and just say - ok.  you're born, you live, you die -- but tonight Joel said something that hit me.  He said God wants us to live really exciting, fulfilled lives.  It is our own determination to spoil our own lives that makes us miserable, doubtful, and fearful.  He said it is better to be positive about life.  So, tonight, i read the score of the 'Creation' of hayden again and wonder what life was meant to be like originally.  Probably Adam still looked pretty good without the rib (what could he do, argue to get it back from Eve?) - and I wonder if Eve ever thanked him.  (probably not).  Well, considering how God makes things, i don't think Adam cared that his wife was a bit conceited and never thanked him.  it's only at the end of our lives that we really become thankful, it seems.  you just sort of take forgranted the blessings of life and the sacrifices others make for you.  i think i'll stay home tonight and not fight traffic alone.  besides, what good is seeing martha argerich concert and not being able to discuss the concert afterwards with my hubby.

[pianonut]

Bernhard,  i do like your creative mind!  the x chromosome breaking and making a y WAS pretty good.  ok.  maybe you don't agree with my religous thoughts, but reading the original text of anything can be pretty confusing.  take for instance this passage in hayden's creation (i thought it was talking about eve):

'the large and arched front sublime
of wisdom deep declares the seat'

now, it just so happens that after reading that three or four times (thinking to myself, people were just the same back in those old days - really into big boobs) and come to find out--it was speaking of adam.  his forehead. the text was changed to be more easily understood:

his broad and arching, noble brow
proclaims of wisdom's deep abode. 

i agree that between reading the Bible, the text of the creation, and Milton's paradise lost--one could be entraptured by any three of the tales (even the facts are distorted in the last two and not scientifically explained in the first) and God's ingenuity that bernhard may actually be correct about.  has anyone read the text of sherazahde?  ok that belongs on the erotic forum.  but, the tales of 1001 arabian nights in the original version is pretty interesting, too.  tonight i
m just focusing on my spiritual side and reading the bible.  maybe tommorrow night i will reread milton's paradise lost.  will keep you posted on any discoveries.

[pianonut]

for those of you who may have an interest in reading various accounts of haydn's 'creation', here is a text of Milton's (paradise lost).  in class we are supposed to compare the libretto of haydn with genesis.  i didn't realize he added so much more.  it looks like he used a libretto (obtained from Salomon) that may have been written by Thomas Linley (in charge of Handel's estate) - but also ideas in translation passed down from Baron von Swieten (who translated text from German to English) and had read Milton.  it is also thought that Milton had gotton some of his ideas from the midrash (extrabiblical books-which were coming into print and available to read around his time in English)

anyway, here's the site for paradise lost:

https://book.mirror.org/gb.milton.html

[invisible]

... I mean, really, everyone has leather-wearing level-headed accountants in their heads.  Don't they?

I do  

[pianonut]

why is a man's supplement (vitamin B-100) on my thread?  for stress, no less.  and, here, i find that it is actually leather that helps people think better.  i never really thought of it before, but i suppose that in the 'old days' people chewed the leather and it gave them time to think and was a stress reliever.

[pokeythepenguin]

OMG i found the thread finally!  piano nut let us row down the stream oconee (obligitory Finnegan's Wake reference)

[pianonut]

the oconee in georgia.  ok.  canoeing?  say, that's where the appalachian trail starts (somewhere there) and ends in maine.

finnegan's wake is the most combinatory story ever composed.  it beats milton.  esp. since it is only talking of a space 2 1/2 miles wide.  (i think this is true)  not sure i could make heads or tales of it...

of course, that is similar to mark twain's diversions as well.  one thing leads to another - just as a river meanders and tells it's own story until it reaches the ocean.  then it's story is combined with a thousand others and amalgomated.

ps.  i found a good site (despite my fears of alligators, never having lived near any) for canoeing on the oconee:   www.canoecanoe.com/okefenokee.html