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Topic: Introducing 3JCN notation method  (Read 543 times)

Offline 3jcnguyen

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Introducing 3JCN notation method
on: October 31, 2025, 05:05:57 PM
Dear Teachers,
I am the creator of 3JCN music notation (2007). I'd like to invite you to check it out and give me your feedbacks to improve it. https://www.new3jcn.com/lessons/3jcn_drumset.html
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TNT
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Re: Introducing 3JCN notation method
Reply #1 on: October 31, 2025, 08:20:26 PM
The western notation system has evolved over a long time and looks the way it does for specific reasons. Yes, it creates a barrier of entry for those who want to instantly read simple melodies and play, but as soon as you are playing even remotely more complex music, no other system has managed to cope as elegantly. The people who put in the effort to learn are amply rewarded.

People may of course use simplified ways of writing music to get started, nothing wrong with that. But it's not a good idea to replace or ignore learning notation properly.

This is worth a watch on the subject:

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Re: Introducing 3JCN notation method
Reply #2 on: November 01, 2025, 01:07:10 AM
Thank you for your response. Yes, I have watched that video before and I liked the conclusion. There are many roads to Rome. The western notation is the main high road. My only hope is to introduce 3JCN to the “97% who don’t read” western notation, so they have a viable road into music without first climbing the high staircase.

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Re: Introducing 3JCN notation method
Reply #3 on: November 12, 2025, 10:46:42 PM
When I looked at the notation, I could see that you used letter names, and I think that notes like F# or Ab were given some kind of fraction number.   How do you handle B# or Fb?  Do you just call them C and E respectively?

I saw single melody lines, or two melody lines, and then I saw melody lines with chord symbols on top but nothing complex.

The thing about regular notation with all its flaws is that it's like a picture, and like a graph or map.  Before I ever learned to read music properly, I could see the "shape" of things. Having to look at note names one after the other would slow one down I'd think.  it looked complicated.

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Re: Introducing 3JCN notation method
Reply #4 on: November 13, 2025, 06:43:17 AM
Personally I find your system inefficient.
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Re: Introducing 3JCN notation method
Reply #5 on: November 13, 2025, 09:47:33 AM
Dear Teachers,
I am the creator of 3JCN music notation (2007). I'd like to invite you to check it out and give me your feedbacks to improve it. https://www.new3jcn.com/lessons/3jcn_drumset.html
Thanks,
TNT

I have frankly never seen anything to convoluted in my life...

For a fun mental exercise - see if you can figure out what piece this is. I took away any hints...



Want to try double or nothing??? What about this???



This looks absolutely terrible.

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Re: Introducing 3JCN notation method
Reply #6 on: November 15, 2025, 09:46:52 AM
The only reason I know what the first one represents is because I remember seeing it named on the site.  D# is written as D.  G# is written as G.  I see no clue about notes raised or lowered by a semitone.*

The .25 must mean "quarter note" or "quarter beat".  The combo of letter name note (minus accidental) plus a two-number fraction, plus finger number makes it cluttered, when we only have a single melody.  What happens when music gets more complex?

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edit: *It seems that sharps are + signs, and I assumed flats are - signs.

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Re: Introducing 3JCN notation method
Reply #7 on: November 15, 2025, 12:24:59 PM
I have frankly never seen anything to convoluted in my life...

For a fun mental exercise - see if you can figure out what piece this is. I took away any hints...



Want to try double or nothing??? What about this???



This looks absolutely terrible.

First one is Fur Elise, second one no idea.

When you reach the complexity of these pieces you'll benefit more from knowing traditional notation if you want a pleasant reading experience. It's not THAT hard to learn tbh.
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