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Topic: Sonetto 104 del Petrarca - the poem  (Read 7093 times)

Offline Muzakian

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Sonetto 104 del Petrarca - the poem
on: March 07, 2005, 02:40:10 PM
Can anyone here help me uncover the original poem that inspired Liszt's Sonetto 104 del Petrarca? Sorry if this has been asked before but I couldn't find anything using the search engine, and all I found on the internet was this: https://www.opus30.net/sonnet104.txt
However, I don't think that site is a reliable source - at least I hope it's incorrect, because that poem "sucketh"  :P
Any help would be much appreciated!
Thanks in advance  :)
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Re: Sonetto 104 del Petrarca - the poem
Reply #1 on: March 07, 2005, 08:42:28 PM
i'm still looking.  so far i found an interesting site:
https://library.upenn.edu/exhibits/rbm/petrarch/petrarch_music.html

also you can hear dinu lipatti play this piece:
www.musicabona.com/catalog/PL236.html.en

'Pace non trovo' is the poem that Liszt set for piano.  it is described as "an agitated, gusty opening that gives way to the calm beginning of a concentrated love story.  The mood continually shifts from the lyrical to explosions of passion in Liszt's characteristically theatrical manner (quoting off a source on the internet).  After a powerful, virtuosic culmination, fortissimo with octaves, double notes, and long trills- the music gradually subsides into a heavenly Coda.  Liszt's harmonic creativity (juxtaposition of remote keys, smoothly executed modulations, and the always fresh use of augmented chords) is here revealed in its fullest extent."

will look some more.
do you know why benches fall apart?  it is because they have lids with little tiny hinges so you can store music inside them.  hint:  buy a bench that does not hinge.  buy it for sturdiness.

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Re: Sonetto 104 del Petrarca - the poem
Reply #2 on: March 07, 2005, 08:56:52 PM
ok.  you can find the whole poem under lang lang's program notes.  BUT, you have to keep scrolling down past the initial program.

www.kimmelcenter.org/events/notes/langlangprogram.pdf
do you know why benches fall apart?  it is because they have lids with little tiny hinges so you can store music inside them.  hint:  buy a bench that does not hinge.  buy it for sturdiness.

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Re: Sonetto 104 del Petrarca - the poem
Reply #3 on: March 08, 2005, 06:01:58 AM
Very nice. Thanks heaps pianonut!  :D
I actually own the Lipatti recording and love it (it's better than Bolet to these ears).
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Re: Sonetto 104 del Petrarca - the poem
Reply #4 on: March 08, 2005, 09:01:26 PM
Dover's "Liszt Masterpieces" book does have the poem and a translation.  This website has a lot of various poems that were set to music.  Here's this one:
https://www.recmusic.org/lieder/get_text.html?TextId=12657

Btw, Liszt originally wrote it as a song (voice and piano) which he transcribed into two piano versions!  The original song and first piano transcription were part of Tre Sonetti di Petrarca. (The Annees de Pelerinage one being the one most played now.)  There are recordings of the song available if you look around.
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Re: Sonetto 104 del Petrarca - the poem
Reply #5 on: March 09, 2005, 06:03:13 PM
ah! This was where I got my screen name from as I was listening to this piece played by Lipatti the other day! =D
I actually own the Lipatti recording and love it (it's better than Bolet to these ears).
agree!!!
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