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Topic: Scarlatti - Longo vs. Kirkpatrick  (Read 3761 times)

Offline Torp

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Scarlatti - Longo vs. Kirkpatrick
on: March 08, 2005, 04:46:14 AM
In a post from a long, long time ago, Bernhard had mentioned a few Scarlatti Sonatas.  Below is the description of one of them:

K 40 A nice minuet only a page long (24 bars) amongst the easiest of Scarlatti pieces (grade 3)

I bought the sheet music CD with all the Scarlatti and Haydn Sonatas, but the CD uses the Longo numbering for the sonatas.  I figured out which Longo # was supposed to correspond to K40 (according to the web site I found it's L375), but the Sonata itself doesn't fit the description above.  The L375 is a 3-page presto.

Anyone out there have the definitive reference between Kirkpatrick and Longo for the Scarlatti Sonatas?

Thanks,

Jef

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Re: Scarlatti - Longo vs. Kirkpatrick
Reply #1 on: March 08, 2005, 12:45:51 PM
K40 under Longo is L357, not L375.

Here you have a Scarlatti's Work Number Converter:

https://www.asahi-net.or.jp/~ub2s-mrym/scarlatti/referenco.html.en.8859-1

It converts work numbers between Kirkpatrick's, Longo's and Pestelli's catalogs.

What I did was to print the Bernhard's list and then write the Longo's number aside the Kirkpatrick's one. And I do the opposite for the printed sheets from the CD's scores.

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Re: Scarlatti - Longo vs. Kirkpatrick
Reply #2 on: March 08, 2005, 03:03:55 PM
that's great!  i will use this as a reference.
do you know why benches fall apart?  it is because they have lids with little tiny hinges so you can store music inside them.  hint:  buy a bench that does not hinge.  buy it for sturdiness.

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Re: Scarlatti - Longo vs. Kirkpatrick
Reply #3 on: March 08, 2005, 03:08:13 PM
just realized that my edition (editio musica budapest - EMB) has both!  many editions do not and have one or the other.
do you know why benches fall apart?  it is because they have lids with little tiny hinges so you can store music inside them.  hint:  buy a bench that does not hinge.  buy it for sturdiness.

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Re: Scarlatti - Longo vs. Kirkpatrick
Reply #4 on: March 08, 2005, 05:22:26 PM
Thanks, the web site I used (after further review) obviously has a typo.  It has the Longo 375 listed for both the K20 and K40. >:(

Here's the web site, btw:

https://www.classical.net/music/composer/works/scarlattid/lists/longo.html

Most of the numbers seem to be accurate, but obviously there are some errors.  I'll make sure and check against the web site you provided.

Thanks again,

Jef
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Re: Scarlatti - Longo vs. Kirkpatrick
Reply #5 on: March 09, 2005, 03:35:32 AM
All I know is that K.491 has to be one of the greatest Scarlatti sonatas, including what HAS to be regarded as the greatest moment in Scarlatti- the absolutely out of the blue theme transposed up three half steps to F Major (from D Major). God, if I ever listen to that and don't scream again, I'll be damned.

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Re: Scarlatti - Longo vs. Kirkpatrick
Reply #6 on: March 09, 2005, 03:05:23 PM
All I know is that K.491 has to be one of the greatest Scarlatti sonatas, including what HAS to be regarded as the greatest moment in Scarlatti- the absolutely out of the blue theme transposed up three half steps to F Major (from D Major). God, if I ever listen to that and don't scream again, I'll be damned.

I'll definitely check it out, thanks.  I'm trying to start out on the "easier" ones.  I have made the mistake in the past of trying to tackle works beyond my technical abilities and have given up due to frustration.  I'm trying to have a more disciplined approach.  Amazing how I've become so pragmatic the closer I get to 40.  Ahhhhhh.........as they say, youth is wasted on the young.  But, alas, I have hijacked my own thread. 8)

Thanks all for the help and thoughts.

Jef
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