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Hungarian Rhapsody
on: March 10, 2005, 09:33:57 AM
Im trying to find out which hungarian rhapsody was played by David Helffgot in the film Shine when he was in the bar/cafe.

is it Liszt or Brahms and which one?
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Re: Hungarian Rhapsody
Reply #1 on: March 10, 2005, 09:43:27 AM
Liszt's HR no. 2, I believe

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Re: Hungarian Rhapsody
Reply #2 on: March 10, 2005, 12:04:00 PM
Thanks apion.  Does it have really stretchy 10ths in it do you know?
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Re: Hungarian Rhapsody
Reply #3 on: March 11, 2005, 06:56:15 AM
Thanks apion.  Does it have really stretchy 10ths in it do you know?

I'm not sure.  I got about half-way thru it, and skipped over to Hungarian Rhapsody no. 6 -- just as fun.

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Re: Hungarian Rhapsody
Reply #4 on: March 11, 2005, 12:03:35 PM
Have you leant any others?  I just particularly liked this one but Ive got a recording of Horrowitz doing 6 (I think) which I liked also. 
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Re: Hungarian Rhapsody
Reply #5 on: March 11, 2005, 11:23:12 PM
Have you leant any others?  I just particularly liked this one but Ive got a recording of Horrowitz doing 6 (I think) which I liked also. 

The final half of HR 6 just totally kicks ass.  It's every bit as impressive as HR 2.

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Re: Hungarian Rhapsody
Reply #6 on: March 11, 2005, 11:52:48 PM
I play HR #6. And just for some advice - the final "allegro" section -


Do not use your arm to play the rapid octaves. Use your WRIST. If you use your arm, I assure you, it will fall off before you finish the piece  ;D

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Re: Hungarian Rhapsody
Reply #7 on: March 12, 2005, 01:44:24 AM
Do not use your arm to play the rapid octaves. Use your WRIST. If you use your arm, I assure you, it will fall off before you finish the piece  ;D
ummm not really... you see, I was reading Josef Hoffmann's book and he specifically mentions the right way to do fast octaves (In his example, he talked about the Earl King, but it still applies to HR 6.)  He suggests using the wrist only for brief, light passages and the arm for powerhouse octaves.  For octaves that go on for an exhaustingly long time (ie HR6), he suggests to constantly change the position of the wrist (move in circles while playing the octaves) to avoid fatiguing.  However, the arm AND wrist must both be used to avoid injury.
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Re: Hungarian Rhapsody
Reply #8 on: March 12, 2005, 08:20:38 AM

ummm not really... you see, I was reading Josef Hoffmann's book and he specifically mentions the right way to do fast octaves (In his example, he talked about the Earl King, but it still applies to HR 6.)  He suggests using the wrist only for brief, light passages and the arm for powerhouse octaves.  For octaves that go on for an exhaustingly long time (ie HR6), he suggests to constantly change the position of the wrist (move in circles while playing the octaves) to avoid fatiguing.  However, the arm AND wrist must both be used to avoid injury.
donjuan

Thanks.

You've validated my performance technique for HR #6.

What is your consulting fee?   ;)
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