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Offline paris

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restarting chopin etude
on: March 19, 2005, 09:11:26 AM
a year ago, i started playing chopin op.10 n.9 . i had played it for few months and then stopped because i had to go on new repertorire. now i have to refresh it and start again. i have to polish it for very serious judges  ;D . and it has to be perfect. if someone has any ideas how to bring it back, and how to improve it more, i'd appreciate very much. time i have for do it is 1 month. when i played it before, i didn't have much technique problems, but on second page was a bit of problem to do ff in 2 bars and then pp subito, if you know what i mean.
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Re: restarting chopin etude
Reply #1 on: March 19, 2005, 06:08:05 PM
Well, ideally, after working on it for a couple hours again, you will know very accurately what you did and why you did it. All you need to do is analyze everything you did, see if it was good, if it wasn't, experiment to change it and make it perfect.

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Re: restarting chopin etude
Reply #2 on: March 23, 2005, 02:53:02 PM
If you don't have problems with the left hands 5-4 finger stretch, the etude should not be of much problem at all.
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Re: restarting chopin etude
Reply #3 on: March 23, 2005, 03:23:47 PM
Just start to learn it like you never played it before. This time though the sections will go by alot faster.

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Re: restarting chopin etude
Reply #4 on: March 24, 2005, 11:59:51 AM
Begin with small sections and slow- make sure all movements are perfect and the mem is REALLY secure (dont leave that side of things late). Dont let your self away with anything - if a finger is unsure - FIX it, if the grading is not quite right dont move on till it is (alternate sections so each bit gets worked evenly). This etude is particularly good for learning to balance parts - pay MASSIVE amounts of attention to this and i would spend time working in strands and making really good connections - phrases beginnings and ends have to be perfect. Do lots of experimenting with your pedals too to enhance the balance - NB dont let it ruin fingerwork and carefull study of counterpoint. Really study rhetoric (so much chromatic rambling here) play with it and find a solution that works (read eigeldinger and Quantz) _ Quantz???!  - yeap! The line from thr rhetoric of Bach Mozart etc is often underplayed - you dont nec need to do everything but i=understand where he was coming from. When reworking make sure espec in this kind of piece you are holding all right things on and that your fingering is actually as good as it could be - often you change your mind on fingering and this can lead to inaccuracies unless your (CAREFULL) which is what I would suggest you be if your playing a Chopin etude or indeed anything in public. ;) All the best  - Good luck! ;D

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Re: restarting chopin etude
Reply #5 on: March 24, 2005, 08:51:45 PM
If you don't have problems with the left hands 5-4 finger stretch, the etude should not be of much problem at all.

yeah, i have luck that my hand is very VERY big, so fingering 5-4 is definitely not problem.  bigger problem is quick switching from ff to pp subito, and those octave repetitions and quick thrills, but i find that more easier then before, when i was starting to learn this etude.

anyway, thanx for advices!  :)
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Re: restarting chopin etude
Reply #6 on: April 02, 2005, 02:14:26 AM


yeah, i have luck that my hand is very VERY big, so fingering 5-4 is definitely not problem.  bigger problem is quick switching from ff to pp subito, and those octave repetitions and quick thrills, but i find that more easier then before, when i was starting to learn this etude.

anyway, thanx for advices!  :)


There is only one way to solve this problem, and it is to play slow.  I mean slow.  I mean to cultivate slow tempos.  Most people do not know what it means to play slow.  We all must discover it.
If you can play pianissimo by itself; if you can play fortissimo by itself; that is not the problem.  The problem is you are not giving yourself time to play each.  The only way is to go slow, so slow, that you can hear everything, before you play it.  Then the most dynamic extremes, will be easy to you.

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Re: restarting chopin etude
Reply #7 on: April 09, 2005, 06:03:05 PM
If you don't have problems with the left hands 5-4 finger stretch, the etude should not be of much problem at all.

Why 5-4?? I do 5-3 instead!! :P
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