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Offline BoliverAllmon

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mei-ting sun video
on: March 27, 2005, 04:02:37 AM
I just watched mei-ting vid from his site. I was curious what is the fingering he is using for all of those trills. it looks like he is alternating between 2,1 instead of alternating 2,3 but good be really bad off.

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Re: mei-ting sun video
Reply #1 on: March 27, 2005, 10:51:22 AM
1323132313231323


once u get it right, works like a charm.

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Re: mei-ting sun video
Reply #2 on: March 27, 2005, 12:15:34 PM
that is what I thought. Is there a specific reason for doing this?

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Re: mei-ting sun video
Reply #3 on: March 27, 2005, 12:20:22 PM
13231323 is called Thalberg's Trill, after the pianist who invented it (reportedly Liszt's equal).

It's supposedly the fastest trilling combination you can ever get, but it's annoying to practise at first. Way better than the usual 23 though.
Fortune favours the musical.

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Re: mei-ting sun video
Reply #4 on: March 27, 2005, 12:40:53 PM
that is what I thought. Is there a specific reason for doing this?

Probably to relieve stress from only using 2 and 3.

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Re: mei-ting sun video
Reply #5 on: March 27, 2005, 12:42:13 PM
No wonder why the thalberg trill has been so difficult for me. I have been trying to do it 123121312131 LOL I will have to try this one out.

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Re: mei-ting sun video
Reply #6 on: March 28, 2005, 06:42:17 AM
Hehe

Well, most pianists don't bother with Thalberg's trill anyway.
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Re: mei-ting sun video
Reply #7 on: March 28, 2005, 11:33:27 AM
Hehe

Well, most pianists don't bother with Thalberg's trill anyway.

why?

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Re: mei-ting sun video
Reply #8 on: March 28, 2005, 01:12:24 PM
Hehe

Well, most pianists don't bother with Thalberg's trill anyway.
Well, it's a good thing to use, so why not?

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Re: mei-ting sun video
Reply #9 on: March 29, 2005, 12:31:29 AM
It is indeed a good thing to do, but I've got heaps of piano videos and only ONE so far has a Thalberg's trill in it, and moreover you can achieve the same results using 2-3 or 2-4 for short trills.


Thalberg's trill is for really long ones that span over bars, IMO.
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Re: mei-ting sun video
Reply #10 on: March 29, 2005, 12:33:49 AM
It is indeed a good thing to do, but I've got heaps of piano videos and only ONE so far has a Thalberg's trill in it, and moreover you can achieve the same results using 2-3 or 2-4 for short trills.


Thalberg's trill is for really long ones that span over bars, IMO.

If I remember correctly Rubinstein used the Thalberg on the trills in Saint-Saens PC 2 and those are pretty short and quick

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Re: mei-ting sun video
Reply #11 on: March 29, 2005, 12:39:59 AM
Horowitz used it often too, and I think even Mozart did.

This is making me want to practise it again.
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Re: mei-ting sun video
Reply #12 on: March 29, 2005, 12:45:00 AM
Horowitz used it often too, and I think even Mozart did.

This is making me want to practise it again.

yeah I know mozart used it. Horowitz I don't know of though. i wonder about liszt?

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Re: mei-ting sun video
Reply #13 on: March 29, 2005, 03:58:32 AM
...I think even Mozart did.
Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart
1756-1791

Sigismond Thalberg
1812-1871

Why don't we call it the Mozart trill, then?

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Re: mei-ting sun video
Reply #14 on: March 29, 2005, 10:38:45 AM
Thalberg made it famous by trilling with with it for hours during a performance once.
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Re: mei-ting sun video
Reply #15 on: March 30, 2005, 07:45:57 PM
Woah. I guess I know why they call him Liszt's rival, now.

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Re: mei-ting sun video
Reply #16 on: March 30, 2005, 08:07:03 PM
Thalberg made it famous by trilling with with it for hours during a performance once.
Ah... how time has changed...

Wonder what would the critiques and Piano Forumites might write if some one trills for hours during a performance today.

And Thalberg's "Triller" just might out-sell Jackson's "Thriller."
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