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Offline liszt1022

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Webern - Variations Op. 27
on: April 03, 2005, 04:15:53 PM
I'm currently working on this. I've analyzed mvts 1 and 2, but are there any good analyses of mvt 3 online out there? I'm looking for form and larger picture, besides just iterations of a tone row.

you have to think so fast in mvt 2! f slurred, p staccato, f quarters, p staccato, f accented, etc.

I've been thinking of re-notating mvt 2, to be mostly in 3/8, but a few measures having extra beats. I figure, with classical rhythmic accentuation superceded by every single note having a written expressinon, it should be ok. Thoughts on this?

Offline Lance Morrison

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Re: Webern - Variations Op. 27
Reply #1 on: April 03, 2005, 06:53:07 PM
i found a couple results searching for "webern variations analysis" in google

i wish I could actually comment about this wonderful work....needless to say it's one of my favourites, one of Webern's best

Offline Lance Morrison

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Re: Webern - Variations Op. 27
Reply #2 on: April 04, 2005, 03:15:38 AM
i hope you get some more responses.....

one thing I thought I'd add though is......remember to play this music very expressively, not just as some cold abstract modern composition. Webern's music, along with Berg's and Schönberg's, grew out of romanticism, and as such should be played with just as much emotion as you would play any romantic composer's music. If anything, the music of the 2nd school is hyper-expressive, especially in the astounding concision of Webern's works. A musician who premiered one of his chamber pieces recalled how Anton instructed him on the playing of the work--he quietly sang the piece, filling every distilled phrase with a wealth of expressivness. This is where Boulez in his interpretations of the 2nd school (despite how great his conducting of these works is in its clarity) falls a bit flat. If it helps, imagine you are playing Mahler...

Offline stormx

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Re: Webern - Variations Op. 27
Reply #3 on: May 09, 2005, 05:22:29 PM
I have them in a Pollini CD.

I really cannot understand them.
After listening to them several times, they still sound to my ears as random notes  :o
I am not trying to disqualify the work or the composer, but it is obviously not my taste...

I wonder whether all atonal music is like this...

Offline liszt1022

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Re: Webern - Variations Op. 27
Reply #4 on: May 09, 2005, 09:54:41 PM
I have them in a Pollini CD.

I really cannot understand them.
After listening to them several times, they still sound to my ears as random notes  :o
I am not trying to disqualify the work or the composer, but it is obviously not my taste...

I wonder whether all atonal music is like this...


I don't expect anyone I play it for to understand it, most people don't like it. If you study the score to it you can see how organized the whole thing is, and you can understand it that way. But just listening, you probably won't.
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