pieces after 1987.

[real_piano._.potato]

Hello guys,
i am still kinda new to piano street so please bare with me. So, I am planning on doing the Young Artist competition and they need a piano work 40 years within the competition year (assuming I will go in 2027). I only know a few pieces: "Gargoyles, Op. 29" by American Composer Lowell Liebermann, Sonata No. 1 (1st mvt) by Carl Vine, and "Caténaries" by Elliot(t) Carter. My piano teacher gave me Gargoyles and then suddenly removed it, and even though it MIGHT come back into my repertoire, I want some other pieces that are written after 1987. My piano teacher is probably not giving me the two other pieces I had mentioned because I know they probably won't give it to me. Please tell me soon. Thank you!

[rachmaninoff_forever]

James Lee III
Carl Vine
ligeti

That’s a good start

[essence]

You seem to have a very controlling teacher. Are you sure it is a flourishing relationship?

[dizzyfingers]

You seem to have a very controlling teacher. Are you sure it is a flourishing relationship?

Haha.  This young pianist is probably 15 or 16.  There's no point in raising this very adult perspective.  His whole life is based on parents/teachers managing him.   

[thorn]

What other pieces are you playing? It's important to think about this piece as part of a program vs as a box-ticking exercise.

[dizzyfingers]

Hello guys,
i am still kinda new to piano street so please bare with me. So, I am planning on doing the Young Artist competition and they need a piano work 40 years within the competition year (assuming I will go in 2027). I only know a few pieces: "Gargoyles, Op. 29" by American Composer Lowell Liebermann, Sonata No. 1 (1st mvt) by Carl Vine, and "Caténaries" by Elliot(t) Carter. My piano teacher gave me Gargoyles and then suddenly removed it, and even though it MIGHT come back into my repertoire, I want some other pieces that are written after 1987. My piano teacher is probably not giving me the two other pieces I had mentioned because I know they probably won't give it to me. Please tell me soon. Thank you!

You may want to have a conversation with an all knowing AI bot.

The Cliburn competition requires the competitors play a contemporary work, you could look those up.

Here's what I got posing your question:

Marc-André Hamelin: Various Etudes (including his La Campanella arrangement), praised for extreme technical demands.

Nikolai Kapustin: Eight Concert Etudes, Op. 40 (1984) and Sonatina (2009), frequently performed for their jazz-classical fusion.

Carl Vine: Piano Sonatas and Toccatissimo (1989), known for brilliant, motoric textures.

Philip Glass: Etudes (Book 1: 1991–1994, Book 2: 1994–2012), staples for contemporary minimalism.

Unsuk Chin: Etudes (1995-2003), highly regarded in modern repertoire.

Stephen Hough: Various commissioned works and transcriptions.

John Adams: China Gates (1977, but widely played in recent decades) and Phrygian Gates.

Lowell Liebermann: Gargoyles (1989), favored for their dramatic, technical style.

Thomas Adčs: Mazurkas.

Marcos Fernandez-Barrero: FugaCity (commissioned for competitions).

Various pieces by Elena Kats-Chernin

These pieces offer a mix of high-speed technical display, rhythmic complexity, and modern harmonic language.

[dizzyfingers]

I was curious so I asked that question about the Cliburn competition, I guess it's one commissioned work which all competitors play:

Here are the pieces played in the contemporary categories for the most recent competitions:

16th Van Cliburn International Piano Competition (2022)
Commissioned Work: Fanfare Toccata by Stephen Hough.
Context: This 4–6 minute work was composed by jury member Stephen Hough and was a required piece for all 30 competitors in the Preliminary Round.

15th Van Cliburn International Piano Competition (2017)
Commissioned Work: Toccata on "L'homme armé" by Marc-André Hamelin.
Context: Composed by pianist-composer and jury member Marc-André Hamelin, this piece was required for all 30 competitors during the Preliminary Round.

14th Van Cliburn International Piano Competition (2013)
Commissioned Work: Birichino by Christopher Theofanidis.

2009: White Lies for Lomax by Mason Bates.

2005: Secret & Glass Gardens by Jennifer Higdon.

[essence]

Haha.  This young pianist is probably 15 or 16.  There's no point in raising this very adult perspective.  His whole life is based on parents/teachers managing him.

Just raising a flag. What is appropriate at 15/16 is not appropriate at 17/18. Even at 15/16 there should be some discussion and explanation.

The fact that he comes here for advice is also raising a flag, why can't he ask his teacher?

Teacher should be raising an artist.

[real_piano._.potato]

What other pieces are you playing? It's important to think about this piece as part of a program vs as a box-ticking exercise.

what I know I will play next year:
Tchaikovsky Dumka (i'm playing this for nationals this year in the finals next month)
Liszt TE 10 "Appassionata" (this piece is on hiatus rn cuz i have to focus on my national works for this year rn)
pieces that I’m waiting for:
Beethoven sonata mvt
Contemporary piec (well, now when I think about it, I might be still playing gargoyles)

And I think i forgot to add this to the original post but she removed it from my repertoire cuz i cannot play the 3rd mvt my touch is crazily off and we don't have time to play this piece rn cuz i have finals in less than a month and I was supposed to play this piece for kaufman this year but because it's taking a long time to adjust the touch so that's why we stopped after we learned the news that i got into the finals.

[real_piano._.potato]

Just raising a flag. What is appropriate at 15/16 is not appropriate at 17/18. Even at 15/16 there should be some discussion and explanation.

The fact that he comes here for advice is also raising a flag, why can't he ask his teacher?

Teacher should be raising an artist.

nah bro i'm just lowkey bored rn. if you check my newest post in this forum (the one before this message) i would mention that i stopped playing gargoyles cuz i am struggling crazily with the touch of this piece and i have to focus on other pieces rn so i don't have time to work on it and she said she might give me another piece but hadn't told me yet cuz i'm focusing on other pieces rn and if i work on a sixth piece rn (i play 4 pieces for nationals finals that's next month, and one etude for practicing purposes (not the TE it's a chopin etude) cuz my left hand's weak lol) imma be fried for the finals. She is not controlling and nothing's a red flag. it's just that in my current time and my technical abilities I cannot "handel" (pun intended) that many pieces rn. The most i can do was five in the past and then i was fried (mendelssohn fatasie mvt, beethoven sonata mvt, rachmaninoff etude, african piece, and a ginastera.) The only reason why i started this forum is because I just want some other pieces and i'm also just guesssing what piece she would give me in the future lol.

[essence]

Good to know!

[liszt-and-the-galops]

Kaija Saariaho and Jack Gibbons are some 21st Century composers I'm a fan of. You might be able to find something among their compositions.

You may want to have a conversation with an all knowing AI bot.

Predictive text is neither "AI" nor all-knowing, and having a "conversation" with it is not a productive use of anyone's time.

[rachmaninoff_forever]

Predictive text is neither "AI" nor all-knowing, and having a "conversation" with it is not a productive use of anyone's time.

Diddo

[real_piano._.potato]

Diddo

What is diddo?

[dizzyfingers]

"same here", essentially, i.e. "I agree with you"

[real_piano._.potato]

Thank you!

[dizzyfingers]

Let us know your thoughts about some of the pieces listed above, after you've listened to them, etc.
I think you probably have 10-12 pieces or collections of pieces to investigate ... ?

[real_piano._.potato]

I really like these pieces everyone mentioned, and I would love to reply more info, but I have to be offline for a month cuz I'm prepping for a competition. Please understand. Thank you!
-real_piano._.potato

[real_piano._.potato]

Hello Again!

So, I really shouldn't be on here, but i showed my piano teacher this "liszt" (pun intended) and was like "Cool, I would consider some of the pieces". also said that she might give me a piece by an african composer after 1950 (probably still after 1987) for not only YoungArts and also maybe for MTNA Senior. Also, I wanted to say I really liked the China Gates by John Adams but the Phrygian gates is way too long for me. Bye!

[dizzyfingers]

Hello Again!

So, I really shouldn't be on here ...

 Bye!

So you've given up all social media as you prepare for auditions or whatever ...
- - not sure I truly believe that - - Yes, I believe the intention, but what's the reality?
And Don't Answer that Question.  I don't want to distract you! 

[real_piano._.potato]

i mean this is not social media..., right? I only would use piano street at most and i rerely use it. rarely youtube (I might watch some videos of people playing some pieces that i'm playing right now) and i stopped posting on tiktok but i have a million drafts but they're all gone cuz i deleted the app lol. I don't use discord and snapchat currently because of the competition , so practically, I don't use social media currently.

[real_piano._.potato]

(sighs in background) i lost that damn competition and i'm actually so mad rn because a lot of people are saying how the top three were actually sh*t and i should've won, but you know the good news? my piano teacher decided to give me fanfare toccata yippee!

[rachmaninoff_forever]

(sighs in background) i lost that damn competition and i'm actually so mad rn because a lot of people are saying how the top three were actually sh*t and i should've won, but you know the good news? my piano teacher decided to give me fanfare toccata yippee!

Don’t sweat it competitions are about politics and who sounds closest to how the jury plays

[thorn]

Don’t sweat it competitions are about politics and who sounds closest to how the jury plays

100%

And I don't know the Fanfare Toccata but I like Stephen Hough's stuff. The Rodgers and Hammerstein transcriptions are worth checking out too. If you search them on YT 99% of results are My Favourite Things (the most famous), so linking the other three (all four are in the same book):

(My favourite)

[malko_malkovich]

Dear Potato,
Some works that I like very much from this period (1990 onwards) are the following:
1. BERIO Luciano. Six Encores (finished 1990).
2. SCIARRINO Salvatore. Sonata No. 5 (1995).
3. ADČS Thomas. Traced Overhead (1996)
4. BIRTWISTLE Harrison. Harrison's Clocks (1998)
5. LIGETI Gyorgy. Études volume III (2001).
6. BENJAMIN George. Shadowlines (2001).
7. RZEWSKI Frederic. The Road (1995-2003)
8. SAARIAHO Kaija. Ballade (2005).
9. EÖTVÖS Péter. Dances of the Brush-footed Butterfly (2012)
10. HOSOKAWA Toshio. Études (2013).
11. FARDON Daniel. Piano Suite No. 3 (2016).
12. BOGDANOVIC Dusan. Six Ricercars (2018).

Not sure if any will fit your need, but here enters your teacher.  I hope you enjoy listening to those works as much as I do. And best of luck with the upcoming competition!

Best regards,
Malko.

[loveibert]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_compositions_by_Aaron_Copland
There are several pieces written in your time period. Good luck!

[dizzyfingers]

Some works that I like very much from this period (1990 onwards) are the following:
1. BERIO Luciano. Six Encores (finished 1990).
2. SCIARRINO Salvatore. Sonata No. 5 (1995).
3. ADČS Thomas. Traced Overhead (1996)
4. BIRTWISTLE Harrison. Harrison's Clocks (1998)
5. LIGETI Gyorgy. Études volume III (2001).
6. BENJAMIN George. Shadowlines (2001).
7. RZEWSKI Frederic. The Road (1995-2003)
8. SAARIAHO Kaija. Ballade (2005).
9. EÖTVÖS Péter. Dances of the Brush-footed Butterfly (2012)
10. HOSOKAWA Toshio. Études (2013).
11. FARDON Daniel. Piano Suite No. 3 (2016).
12. BOGDANOVIC Dusan. Six Ricercars (2018).

I've never heard any of these pieces - - thanks for posting!
And it's your first post on this forum! (under this account name at least).

[malko_malkovich]

I've never heard any of these pieces - - thanks for posting!
And it's your first post on this forum! (under this account name at least).

Dear Dizzy,
I was active on this forum like 20 to 15 years ago. Then, life went on a completely different direction (pursuing a path on astrophysics of all things). In the last couple of years, the piano came back with all its mighty power! So, here I am: old dog, fresh account. 

[dizzyfingers]

Dear Dizzy,
I was active on this forum like 20 to 15 years ago. Then, life went on a completely different direction (pursuing a path on astrophysics of all things). In the last couple of years, the piano came back with all its mighty power! So, here I am: old dog, fresh account. 

You sure you want to leave astrophysics?  Past 4 years is an exciting time for cosmology / astrophysics - all the new data from JWST, I can't keep up with all the YT vids showing us things that "break" the standard model.

It could be an exciting time for piano as well, if we were exposed to new music  (I don't get excited by hearing Chopin's masterpieces played repeatedly), it takes effort, and you're clearly applying some. 

There's a long running post about what we're listening to.  Perhaps you could post your favorite piece from above list there:    https://www.pianostreet.com/smf/index.php?topic=41306.0

Welcome!

[dizzyfingers]

(sighs in background) i lost that damn competition and i'm actually so mad rn because a lot of people are saying how the top three were actually sh*t and i should've won, but you know the good news? my piano teacher decided to give me fanfare toccata yippee!

Sorry to hear that
What was your final program?
I'm sure many of us would luv to hear your pianistic efforts - how about posting Auditions?
Is it possible to get feedback from the jurors on their decision - the why's and wherefore's, that would be helpful for students / emerging artists, I'd like to think they had sound reasons for their decisions, rather than label every competition with a cynical dismissal (certainly some can be).

[malko_malkovich]

You sure you want to leave astrophysics?  Past 4 years is an exciting time for cosmology / astrophysics - all the new data from JWST, I can't keep up with all the YT vids showing us things that "break" the standard model.

It could be an exciting time for piano as well, if we were exposed to new music  (I don't get excited by hearing Chopin's masterpieces played repeatedly), it takes effort, and you're clearly applying some. 

There's a long running post about what we're listening to.  Perhaps you could post your favorite piece from above list there:    https://www.pianostreet.com/smf/index.php?topic=41306.0

Welcome!

You're very right about astrophysics: what a time to be alive! I didn't left it altogether, but I was 10ish years late on my preparation to have any chance pursuing a serious career in it. So, it became a hobby again, so to speak. A fascinating one, no doubt, but on the passion side of my life, nothing can ever beat il pianoforte. My wife, perhaps...

And thanks for the link to the coffee lounge: I'll take a look for sure!