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Offline pocorina

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Transcendental??
on: April 26, 2005, 07:31:50 PM
What does Transcendental mean? I know that Liszt composed a lot of these etudes - what does the term relate to?

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Re: Transcendental??
Reply #1 on: April 26, 2005, 07:35:32 PM
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Offline etudes

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Re: Transcendental??
Reply #2 on: April 26, 2005, 08:02:27 PM
2 entries found for transcendental.
tran·scen·den·tal    ( P )  Pronunciation Key  (trnsn-dntl)
adj.
Philosophy.
Concerned with the a priori or intuitive basis of knowledge as independent of experience.
Asserting a fundamental irrationality or supernatural element in experience.
Surpassing all others; superior.
Beyond common thought or experience; mystical or supernatural. 
 
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Offline pbr2005

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Re: Transcendental??
Reply #3 on: April 30, 2005, 03:08:09 AM
... as in transcending (surpassing) the existing standard of execution (technique).

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Re: Transcendental??
Reply #4 on: April 30, 2005, 04:43:35 AM
sure was up himself, that man...

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Offline pianocrazy

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Re: Transcendental??
Reply #5 on: June 22, 2005, 10:27:08 AM
one gd piano website (i forgot which) said that "transcendental" does not refer in the dictionary context, but the style liszt used to mimic the sound of a orchestra on the piano.

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Re: Transcendental??
Reply #6 on: June 22, 2005, 01:26:46 PM
regardless... that man was definately up himself:D

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Re: Transcendental??
Reply #7 on: June 22, 2005, 03:10:12 PM
one gd piano website (i forgot which) said that "transcendental" does not refer in the dictionary context, but the style liszt used to mimic the sound of a orchestra on the piano.

That is odd, that is probably what it means in Liszt's piano music, but from what I know, a transcendental piece is basically a piece that demands extreme technique and virtuosity. For example, several of Beethoven's Sonatas are considered transcendental, as Chopin's Etudes or Tausig's transcription of Schubert's Military March...
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Re: Transcendental??
Reply #8 on: June 23, 2005, 06:08:21 PM
Liszt sounds harder than it actually is..

So the effect obtained transcends the actual level of technique required.    8)

Liszt re-work of the Études had that purpose. To make them easier but still more effective.

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Re: Transcendental??
Reply #9 on: June 24, 2005, 07:11:24 AM
basically it means beyond something. ( going beyond and surpassing with prowess)
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