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Offline theodopolis

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Pianist attitudes to Cesar Franck
on: April 27, 2005, 11:48:45 AM
For an organist (and for organists in general), the influence of Cesar Franck is second only to J.S. Bach as the most important composer for the instrument. Interestingly, this is based on twelve compositions totalling around two hours of music.

Franck's influence on the piano is based primarily on three compositions for solo piano and with orchestra.

How much influence does Franck have on pianists and what is his place among the piano composers? What is the prevailing opinion of this composer?

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Re: Pianist attitudes to Cesar Franck
Reply #1 on: April 27, 2005, 02:31:20 PM
As far as i know Mendelssohn, Franck and Saint Saens were the best organist of the 19th century.

Franck was an amazing  piano virtuoso, even Liszt admired Franck´s technique as a pianist, however the organ was his passion.


As you said his more famous pieces are the Prelude, Chorale and Fugue and Prelude, Aria and Finale He also he wrote one of the most difficult pieces for piano and orchestra ever: Symphonic Variations and dont forget his sonata for Violin and his "Revolutionary" Symphony in D minor.

Hisd piano works are unique. If you put in a microwave the majestic sound of a Church Organ and you mix it with the magic of the Piano you get the music of Cesar Franck.
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Re: Pianist attitudes to Cesar Franck
Reply #2 on: April 27, 2005, 03:01:04 PM
His Symphonic Variations is beautiful, and I wish that I had taken the time to finish it last year.

I also love his d minor symphony, and hope to check out more of his music.

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Re: Pianist attitudes to Cesar Franck
Reply #3 on: November 12, 2005, 10:33:32 PM
I've recently stumbled upon the Prelude, Fugue and Variations, on which I'm working currently.  I haven't had a piece of music so totally enrapture me for a long, long time.  What an utterly gorgeous piece.  I can't wait until it's completely under my fingers.
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Re: Pianist attitudes to Cesar Franck
Reply #4 on: November 13, 2005, 04:35:56 AM
I've recently stumbled upon the Prelude, Fugue and Variations, on which I'm working currently.  I haven't had a piece of music so totally enrapture me for a long, long time.  What an utterly gorgeous piece.  I can't wait until it's completely under my fingers.

Do you know that this work is for organ?
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Re: Pianist attitudes to Cesar Franck
Reply #5 on: November 13, 2005, 05:10:37 AM
Franck's Symphonic Variations for Piano and Orchestra is one of the greatest piano concertos to emerge from France -- or from anywhere.  And his amazing Symphony in D Minor has rightfully been elevated to top-tier status by most of the worlds leading orchestras.  :)

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Re: Pianist attitudes to Cesar Franck
Reply #6 on: November 17, 2005, 03:30:42 PM
Do you know that this work is for organ?

Yes, I did.  I actually like the piano transcription better than the original organ, version.  That said,  the organ influence is very evident in  the piano transcription, e.g. the extended bass notes, and the quick changes of volume.   

 I play the organ, and so I also have ordered the organ sheet music  - twice now - only to be informed that it's on back order forever, apparently. 

Thanks for the other tips of Franck music to explore.  I think he has become my composer of the year. ;)
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