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Topic: Who is learning the Rachmaninoff Rhapsody on a theme by Pagannini?  (Read 1509 times)

Offline musicsdarkangel

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Who is learning this wonderful concerto?
How have you gone about learning it?  I'm going to start practicing from the last variation and work backwards since I already did it the other way around.


Variation 6, measure 17 - all arps of this fasion (where the left hand has to cover a large area), would you finger it with the thumb in the left hand on the f?  then cross over and hit the b, e, f?  Or would you try to take the g, f, b, and then the e, f?  All of those similar arps, I'm not sure what will be better in the long term.

Any practice advice? 

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Re: Help with Rachmaninoff Rhapsody on a theme by Pagannini
Reply #1 on: May 18, 2005, 10:41:08 PM
bump.

*crosses fingers*

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Re: Help with Rachmaninoff Rhapsody on a theme by Pagannini
Reply #2 on: May 18, 2005, 11:17:28 PM
I've played through the early variations often, I'll give this a shot...

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In variation 5, some of the more simpler sounding parts are giving me more difficulty.  Starting at measure 10, when the right and left hand have unisons of 16th notes (chord followed by note), how can I get these sounding precise, rhythmic?  What fingering do you use?

from m. 10 - RH 53-2, 52-1, 53-2-1-4-5

                  LH 12-3, 12*3,12-4-5-2-1
                            *or 13-4

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Variation 6, measure 17

Easiest two ways - (1) LH 52131  RH 1245
or simply (2) LH 521  RH 12345  LH (*). I prefer the first way.
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Re: Help with Rachmaninoff Rhapsody on a theme by Pagannini
Reply #3 on: January 04, 2006, 12:01:43 AM
bumping this.

Who else is playing this concerto?

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Re: Help with Rachmaninoff Rhapsody on a theme by Pagannini
Reply #4 on: January 04, 2006, 02:12:33 PM
       I'm sorry, but I have to say something...
      This Rhapsody, comparing to the piano concertos(of Rachmaninov, of course..), is not the most difficult work. However, we can find some really challenge variations, especially the last ones.
      Anyway, your questions are not the most inteligent...how do you want to prepare this Rhapsody if you can't find fingerings on the first variations by your self??

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Re: Help with Rachmaninoff Rhapsody on a theme by Pagannini
Reply #5 on: January 05, 2006, 09:01:28 PM
       I'm sorry, but I have to say something...
      This Rhapsody, comparing to the piano concertos(of Rachmaninov, of course..), is not the most difficult work. However, we can find some really challenge variations, especially the last ones.
      Anyway, your questions are not the most inteligent...how do you want to prepare this Rhapsody if you can't find fingerings on the first variations by your self??

Oh, no worries; I did.

I bumped a way old thread to see who else is playing this, but maybe I will make another thread for it.

Why are these questions unintelligent?  You obviously underestimate this concerto.  It is obviously easier than the 3rd, but most people I talk to who have played both say that it is more difficult than the 1st/2nd.  Why should it matter anyway? 

By the way, when I posted this, it was the first time I had tried to do fingerings by myself.  I can assure you, this is playable to me.

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Can I be cheeky and ask for the .pdf file for this music, I haven't got it and I'd like to try...
Merci
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