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What political persuasion are you?

Far Left: (Communist, Anarchist, ect.)
Left: (Socalist)
Centre-Left: (Labour lite, democrat)
Centre: (a centrist)
Centre-Right: (republican,
Right: (neo-conservative, fiscal conservative, libertarian, "value voter")
Far Right: (fascist, nationalist, ect.)

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Offline Fugue

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Political Persuasion
on: June 09, 2005, 05:58:46 PM
Just curious to see.

I voted Right ("The Right is always Right").

I know some of the categories could be mixed (a Nationalist could be a communist also, see Mao and Late Stalin), but I think that they are pretty acurate.

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Re: Political Persuasion
Reply #1 on: June 09, 2005, 05:59:32 PM
Forgot to finish the centre-right. Where would the Conservative (in England) party fall?

Offline Derek

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Re: Political Persuasion
Reply #2 on: June 09, 2005, 06:28:55 PM
I find your selections inadequate. There should be a dimension of "more government, less government" as well. Also, how can you possibly put "Anarchist" along with "Communist?" Those two are polar opposites!

Libertarians cannot be placed with neo-cons and "value voters." Libertarians believe in ending the War on Drugs, they don't believe in preventing gays from marrying (as two non neo-con examples): Libertarianism is the only political philosophy which is based on a positive self-fulfilling prophecy:

You are a human being, and you have the power to live your life as you see fit and solve problems that come your way.

With this philosophy, we prevent warring interest groups from developing which constantly try to use the Club of Government to pummel others.

Unfortunately, we would need highly principled, non-career politicians to be in office for this to be remotely possible.

I have tried to adopt the views of american Republicans and Democrats at various times, but I feel compelled by the views of each to hate certain groups of Americans.

That's not what this country is about. (Speaking from an American political perspective here)

Offline pianonut

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Re: Political Persuasion
Reply #3 on: June 09, 2005, 06:48:02 PM
how about a benevolent ruler (we might first see as dictator) as Christ will be.  if the world becomes one Government under God, it will finally be fair for all since he created all equally and gives all the same opportunities.  if you put your trust in man, you'll always be disappointed (as beethoven with napoleon).
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Offline Goldberg

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Re: Political Persuasion
Reply #4 on: June 09, 2005, 06:53:40 PM
In all seriousness, I have taken the test (although I agre that it cannot be relied upon in full, for it is just a simple internet-based test) at politicalcompass.org several times over the years and have never once gotten anything in the upper two quadrants--in fact, each time I take it I migrate more to the left than my previous time! Last time I took it, a few nights ago because of a friend's curiosity, I was actually labled as a sort of mix between Anarchist and Communist (I also agree they are not exactly similar, but let it suffice to say that in some distinctions, mostly governmental or social, I seemed to be an Anarchist, and in others, namely economic, I seemed to be more of a Communist--really, I believe the more accurate description of it, as far as I'm concerned, is Socialist, because although I can sympathise with *some* anarchists (none of that terror/radical kind of stuff) I really do not believe in full-blown communism). To give you an idea, I was not too far away from Ghandi on the comparison chart.

So that's what I'll put in the poll--the top option, as it seems the most fitting. And yes, I'm entirely serious!

However, I will include a disclaimer inasmuch as I have had no formal study in politics of any kind and filled the test out according to what my innate inclinations or instincts told me. So, although the test could, to a certain extent, justify its analysis of my politics, I am not yet prepared to defend myself in that particular zone. In other words: no, I don't want to go there! Still, the test has gotten my curiosity up and I do intend on reading deeper into it, as in purchasing some credible books on the subject, so I can make a more informed and solid decision. I really don't think I'll change a whole lot, though!

Offline mikeyg

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Re: Political Persuasion
Reply #5 on: June 09, 2005, 07:27:51 PM
I am very libertarian.
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Offline greyrune

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Re: Political Persuasion
Reply #6 on: June 09, 2005, 08:40:58 PM
I'm amazed, i know the poll hasn't been going that long but more right than left?! what's the world coming to?  Maybe it's just the student atmosphere but everyone i know treats conservative as a dirty word.  I know as we grow older we apparently become more conservative, but i don't see why except that perhaps we become richer and so more greedy which is the essence of conservativism (ooh now theres a way to get myself disliked ;)).  Pianonut, it would be awsome and when it does happen the world will be a much better place.  However until then I think the best way is for me to rule the world with a benevolent yet iron fist, i.e. i crush those who oppose me but i'll send their spouses money and flowers.

P.S. my political compass score was:
Economic Left/Right: -6.38
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -3.74

Thats around where Ghandi and Neson Mandela came

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Offline Goldberg

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Re: Political Persuasion
Reply #7 on: June 09, 2005, 09:24:21 PM
Wow, that's almost exactly what I got for my score as well, only my first number was about -7.5 or so.

Anyway, just to clarify...there was a topic about this a long time ago, no doubt, and the test we're talking about can be found here:

politicalcompass.org

It IS great fun and pretty thorough too, though it is just multiple choice (in which you are presented with a certain statement and you choose the degree which best corresponds to how much you agree/disagree with it). It's a great help for people like myself who might think about "those things" every now and then but sadly are more caught up in music and school to read enough into it to fully determine where he/she stands on the political marker.

Offline Fugue

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Re: Political Persuasion
Reply #8 on: June 09, 2005, 09:53:22 PM
I really never intended this poll to be genuine, I just wanted to see who would be the first person to point out how "Anarchist" was put with  "Communist." And ditto with the rest. I had wanted to try a "Political compass" like approach, but that would require quite a few choices, so I decided to just try to see if I could start a debate. And I failed. But at least more people now know about politicalcompass.org.

Offline Daevren

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Re: Political Persuasion
Reply #9 on: June 09, 2005, 11:26:40 PM
I float somewhere inbetween Ghandi and Malcolm X.

Economic Left/Right: -8.13
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -7.95

Did everyone see this section of that site: https://www.digitalronin.f2s.com/politicalcompass/iconochasms.php

I found it really enjoyable.

Offline pianonut

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Re: Political Persuasion
Reply #10 on: June 09, 2005, 11:53:31 PM
the trouble is that peaceful rulers get shot in this day and age.  even in william penn's day!  he was in jail practically half his life for not wanting to take sides and fight against the indians (more of a pacifist) yet he would not take off his hat in court because he felt all men were equal.  therefore, if the judicial people didn't take off their hats, he wouldn't. 

don't know much about malcom x, but he seems more radical than ghandi from what i've heard.  islam is sort of mixed in with the ideology, if i understand correctly.  duh.  ok i see you are somewhere between the two extremes.
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