Rap IS NOT Music

[Siberian Husky]

Bingo.

It just goes to show what violent reactions one can illicit when a viewpoint, however tongue-in-cheek it may have been, is presented.

Peace

allthumbs

that wasnt a violent reaction...but this is


YOUR *** UGLY!!

[Siberian Husky]

see theres a huge..HUGE..HUUUGE..difference

IMO

Cheers

AllWangs

[allthumbs]

Sorry about that, but, considering some of the other posts, I wouldn't have been surprised if you had been serious.

Maybe I shouldn't be so angry, but I just really despise ignorant, arrogant people posing as intellectuals.

No problem. The only reason I put out such an outrageous post was that I wanted make a point that there are all kinds of different opinions out there that may be different than your own. The trick is not to be drawn into the argument from the point of being angry, but with a clear mind. It is only with a clear mind that one is able to see objectively what the correct response is in order to refute effectively that which you may find offensive.

Any knee jerk reaction of uncontrolled emotion puts you immediately at a disadvantage and in the field of battle would prove fatal.

Something to think about.

And no, I’m not an intellectual, just someone who’s been there before.



Cheers

allthumbs

[allthumbs]

that wasnt a violent reaction...but this is


YOUR *** UGLY!!

You looked at my profile, didn't you!

[meisel]

I think that you can find this phenomenom in all minority groups. They develop a sense of superiority because they think they have something "normal" people dont have.

I also think that these groups have a tendency to overestimate the energy the others are putting in the interest they self are interested in as themselves (hm, there may be something wrong with that sentence, it looks weird).
For example music. For example, a person who yearns for classical music and just loooooves OC, look down at people who listen to "low quality music".
But hey, maybe these people just dont have the same fascination for music as him? And if he does, so what?

Imagine a bunch of car enthusiasts hanging out outside a gas station, talking about cars and engines and stuff. Suddenly this old crappy car drives in, and stops to get some fuel. Right before he is about to turn off his engine, it makes a weird noise, and it stops. The door opens, and out comes this real nerd-looking guy with two toms thick glasses, marmelade on his shirt and his pants pulled up to his throat (thinking about the finger sentence in some Scriabin etude).

The car enthusiasts then knows excactly what the the problem is, and yelles: "Its the carburator that broke, check it out."  The guy just nods and opens the hood. Without actually knowing what to do, he opens the cooling system.
The car enthusiasts then cracks up. "HAHAHAHA OH MY GOD WHAT AN IDIOT!!! WHAT THE HELL IS  HE DOING!?? So typical academic people, dont know a sh*t about practical stuff!!!! GO BACK TO CANADA, IDIOT!!"

................

With time, as these people grow up, (hopefully) i think they will discover that other people doesnt necessarily have a problem with tying their shoe laces even though they listen to pop music.
 

[rimv2]

Hahahah

This topic will forever go in circles. It's like, I saw a music video that was promoting premarital sex. Then, that's just the pop culture crap listen to some real rap.
Then back again.

But these posts were of a particular ignorance so I just had to quote them.

I do not like rap, or anything that is derivated from it. This is a very easy diffusion of violence, imorality, drug abuse, and those inapropriate dances from primitive times, which dates back to village days! The ridiculous taste of very imoral and non-musical mixture of rhythm, words and noise. Also, a complete abandon of correct English usage and pronunciation....
 I'm sorry, but I hate everything about rap, from the bouncing Cadillacs and bling blings on the videos to the noise that they call music. I am sorry if I went to far on this, but hey... Rachmaninoff said: "time may change the technique of music, but it will not affect its fundamental mission"  that was to bring relief, and to express the deepest feelings of the heart and mind. Well, since I believe Rap is not music, I believe Rachmaninoff is still correct.

Just my opinion...

I'm sorry, you are correct, Siberian Husky, I should abandon this thinking... Maybe it is all because I based it on the only way I saw it. My brother started behaving differently after listening to too much Rap music. He started using those lines and other imoral customs, which I stupidly connected to the music... Well, when I say this, I mean the music that P. Diddy, and that Ciara women write... I've never seen Rap from a point different than P. Diddy, and others of today.
Again, I didn't mean to get anyone mad, and I admit I went too far...
Peace.

Not to call you a racist or anything , but this is indeed similar to the ideology many had and still have about Afrikan Americans. Except, you're quoting Rachmaninov instead of the Bible. But then again maybe you are racist, which means I'm just wasting my time.

Just a thought - Maybe it wasnt rap music that caused your brother to behave in a certain manner. I started listening to classical music and have grown neither prudent nor pretentious. Perhaps your brother behaves in this manner because his friends behave in this manner, and he is just trying to be "cool." Unfortunately this makes your brother stupid, not the music. Live by your own path.

This is a virus that is impregnating in the young people's minds. Well, rap is a "music" genre created in the slums, that comes from a revolted people, one that cannot progress, in other words, an ignorant one.

I may be taking this a bit personal, seeing how I'm from this so called slum, but I can assure you that my IQ far exceeds yours and I will accomplish more in three years at the piano that you have in ten.

One more thing- calling poor people revolted doesnt sound in the least bit racist

[classicarts]

It's supply and demand basically like anything else.  And I would have to say rap is more than music, it's has been a part of life for a lot of people.  What's scary about this phenomenal is that it preaches violence.

[pianote]

keepin' it alive with a BUMP.

[emmdoubleew]

Congratulations morgan, you have proved yourself to be prejudiced, arrogant,  bigoted, categorical, bullheaded, emphatic, cocksure, pigheaded, egotistical, fascistic, narrow-minded, imperious, intolerant, obstinate, one-sided, peremptory, and unequivocal.

Your mother would be proud.

I have absolutely no problem with you hating rap. I do have a problem with you insulting it.

[musik_man]

Congratulations morgan, you have proved yourself to be prejudiced, arrogant,  bigoted, categorical, bullheaded, emphatic, cocksure, pigheaded, egotistical, fascistic, narrow-minded, imperious, intolerant, obstinate, one-sided, peremptory, and unequivocal.

Your mother would be proud.

I have absolutely no problem with you hating rap. I do have a problem with you insulting it.

Rap sucks.  Am I also a prejudiced, arrogant,  bigoted, categorical, bullheaded, emphatic, cocksure, pigheaded, egotistical, fascistic, narrow-minded, imperious, intolerant, obstinate, one-sided, peremptory, and unequivocal person? 

You obviously spared no insult(that you could think of that many adjectives on the spot is actually kinda impressive ) for those who don't like your genre which indeed rivals punk, christian rock, smooth jazz, and new age for producing the worst music.  Now let me ask you this.  Who is more close-minded, someone who dislikes a genre of music, or someone who responds to criticisms of their taste with a tantrum?

[rob47]

hilarioulsly none of you actually know what rap is

[airasia]

I will copy and paste a post I made a while ago about rap/hip hop:

"Hip hop wasn't meant to be pop music.  It has just been manipulated by the music industry since the late 90s in order to sell to the masses.  I've always listened to hip hop and recently caught onto piano music because I find both of them to be the truest, most expressive music.  Hip Hop lyrically and the piano musically.  If you really LISTEN to good hip hop, you'll understand."

The original poster is obviously dissing Eminem, but if you actually LISTEN to how he rhymes and the words he rhymes and how many syllables he rhymes in a row sometimes, i assure you it is about as impressive as any pianist.  He is one of the few talented mainstream artists of any genre.   Also, it's very apparent that these people don't have any concept of rhythm, cause if they did they would recognize just the emceeing (rapping) aspect as music.

To the people saying it is just "crap" with no "spirituality," that is just absurd and completely ignorant.  Hip hop was created BECAUSE of struggle, specifically the struggle  of minorities in inner cities (who coincidentally can't always afford a 10,000 dollar instrument).  Rap was created in order to battle each other verbally (when i say battle, im talking about like in 8 Mile) instead of physically with guns and violence which was prevalent in the communities that the culture originated.  None of you people saying rap is crap and pointless have ever spent a day in the place where hip hop comes from or understand why it exists, so i wouldn't make ignorant statements conclusions like much of you have.  And if you want to listen to something "spiritual" or with "meaning" there is TONS of rap like that (see Mos Def and Talib Kweli), don't base your opinion on some song you heard on the radio and dismiss a whole genre which origins were based on being "meaningful" and politically powerful (see Public Enemy).
   

[semme]

Piano music makes you more smart, calm and intelligent.

i dont think any kind of music makes you intelligent. maybe you feel more intelligent after hearing mozart, but my opinion is that it doesn't give you any major benefits, exept your mood, feelings, emotions.
oh, and when a teacher comes with some good clasical music that is supposed to help you more focus while you are reading a section, that doesnt really work with me. i do the opposite, i stop reading and enjoy the music. ultimately i have to focus even more to get the reading done.

[rimv2]

i dont think any kind of music makes you intelligent.

You obviously haven't heard Antartican music.

[semme]

could you clarify what kind of music it is?

[rimv2]

could you clarify what kind of music it is?

This question can not be easily answered as ah would most surely given what mah interpretation of Antarctic music is and not what it is actually is. Therefore ah will say that it is Antarctic music - nothing more

[emmdoubleew]

You obviously spared no insult(that you could think of that many adjectives on the spot is actually kinda impressive ) for those who don't like your genre which indeed rivals punk, christian rock, smooth jazz, and new age for producing the worst music.  Now let me ask you this.  Who is more close-minded, someone who dislikes a genre of music, or someone who responds to criticisms of their taste with a tantrum?

FFS, please read posts carefully before you respond to them:

I have absolutely no problem with you hating rap. I do have a problem with you insulting it.

Just because you hate something doesn't mean it's bad, you should acknowledge all sides of the argument. So yes, if you don't, it makes you close minded by definition. I'm open minded enough to understand why you'd hate it.

(And thanks about my vocab, I try  )

[Siberian Husky]

musik_man you know nothing,

goodbye

[rimv2]

Black people are wild, unruly and like fried chicken.

White people are calm, curious, respectable and talk pleasantly.

Asian people excel at task that demand heavy use of brain power.

Hispanic people are from Mexico.

Native Americans own casinos.

 








Anyone with half a brain can get why ahve typed this. Every else, well, the short bus was made for a reason.

[lilypiano]

rhythm