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Offline jhon

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How lonely are you...
on: June 16, 2005, 09:47:42 PM
How exactly "lonely" do you feel while practicing?  I mean, we sit ourselves alone for long hours...I almost haven't exercise my vocal chords as I almost don't talk...

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Re: How lonely are you...
Reply #1 on: June 16, 2005, 09:56:11 PM
Usually there are people in my house (thats where I practice) and so i generally don't feel lonely.  However whenever i am alone in the house, I actually find loneliness and isolation does interesting things to my music. It doesn't make it better overall, it just makes it....interesting.  ;)

However when I've practiced at practice rooms in the university, that does have a slightly claustrophobic effect on me. Tiny room...can't hear anything outside...just me and the piano. Yeah I've gotten a bit lonely in those places. But thats quite seperate from enjoying myself playing the piano, of course.

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Reply #2 on: June 16, 2005, 11:14:44 PM
i generally never feel lonely when i'm practicing at home, never really thought about it. however thinking about it now, the only time i ever really felt kind of lonely whilst practicing was back at school when we had prac, and the 4 singers would go off and practice with each other and i was left to play away on my own. but occassionally they'd come visit me and listen to me play which was always nice
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Re: How lonely are you...
Reply #3 on: June 16, 2005, 11:25:34 PM
Not lonely at all. I love the alone time i spend with the piano, to get away from school and everything. The music i make keeps me company.  ;D

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Re: How lonely are you...
Reply #4 on: June 16, 2005, 11:28:03 PM
I have a much greater affinity for solitude than most people I know. No, loneliness is not a sensation I have ever had problems with in any sphere of life, least of all music.

Curiously enough, I experience considerable discomfort if I am continuously forced into contact with people and the larger the crowd the worse I feel. Places such as shopping malls are nightmarish and the bigger a function is the less likely I am to attend it.
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Re: How lonely are you...
Reply #5 on: June 17, 2005, 01:14:11 AM
I like playing piano when I'm alone, because I put more into my playing, usually when my house Is full, I have to play quieter, which kinda makes alot of pieces crappy.  I'm not a lonely person, but I enjoy playing piano in solitude.
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Offline jhon

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Reply #6 on: June 17, 2005, 06:16:46 AM
...but I enjoy playing piano in solitude.

It's an irony (or a paradox) that we, pianists, play with better feeling and emotion whenever we're in a state of "solitude" than when we are simply in a  "happy-go-lucky" mood.   

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Reply #7 on: June 17, 2005, 07:08:36 AM
I would call it an ironic paradox!

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Reply #8 on: June 17, 2005, 10:51:43 AM
i'm always lonely. very lonely.

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Reply #9 on: June 17, 2005, 11:55:36 AM
go to the card store, buy like 50 cards (all kinds) and mail them to all the girls you know (which from the pic thread, looks like a decent number of decent girls).  don't say 'i'm lonely' because that sounds pathetic.  just say, was thinking of you today or something like that.  wait for a couple of days.  your fan mail comes back.  and, voila' you are not AS lonely. 

then, work up your bravery...and answer the cards in the order that they were received by calling them up one by one.  get out your appointment book and fill it up with 'cheap dates.'  not cheap dates, but cheap dates.  you know.  go to a free concert, go for a walk, horseback riding, swimming, etc.

then, at the end of the summer, you won't go back to school all depressed and kill yourself in the first week due to negleting your social side.
do you know why benches fall apart?  it is because they have lids with little tiny hinges so you can store music inside them.  hint:  buy a bench that does not hinge.  buy it for sturdiness.

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Reply #10 on: June 17, 2005, 12:15:00 PM
or, if your not really into the dating scene - get into some activity that puts you with other people.  i happen to like bicycling.  in the course of cycling, i often meet enough people to feel refreshed (besides my own family) and then also enjoy the quiet time when i am alone.

believe me, when you have a family, you'll wonder what you did with moments of quiet.

also, there are lots of things to do that perk up your 'joy.'  it might be rescuing an animal from a shelter.  helping someone.  going to a retirement home and just sitting in the front area a while and striking up conversation (used to do this with my son when he was a baby - and i was bored and wanted to get out - and i was new to the area).  don't limit yourself to just your friends, and you'll end up with a boatload of older people and animals.
do you know why benches fall apart?  it is because they have lids with little tiny hinges so you can store music inside them.  hint:  buy a bench that does not hinge.  buy it for sturdiness.

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Re: How lonely are you...
Reply #11 on: June 17, 2005, 01:03:01 PM
Never when practicing
Afterwards, I realize I have nothing to say to anyone about since all I want to talk about is how well/bad my practice went. I suppose thats a bit lonely
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Re: How lonely are you...
Reply #12 on: June 17, 2005, 02:26:05 PM
Never when practicing
Afterwards, I realize I have nothing to say to anyone about since all I want to talk about is how well/bad my practice went. I suppose thats a bit lonely

I feel the same way.

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Reply #13 on: June 17, 2005, 06:04:17 PM
I would call it an ironic paradox!

How about a "paradoxical irony?"  ;D

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Re: How lonely are you...
Reply #14 on: June 17, 2005, 06:27:29 PM
How exactly "lonely" do you feel while practicing?  I mean, we sit ourselves alone for long hours...I almost haven't exercise my vocal chords as I almost don't talk...

Never  :) When I'm practicing I'm too concentrated to feel lonely.. Then all I can think about is music  :)
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Reply #15 on: June 17, 2005, 06:57:43 PM
go to the card store, buy like 50 cards (all kinds) and mail them to all the girls you know (which from the pic thread, looks like a decent number of decent girls).  don't say 'i'm lonely' because that sounds pathetic.  just say, was thinking of you today or something like that.  wait for a couple of days.  your fan mail comes back.  and, voila' you are not AS lonely. 

then, work up your bravery...and answer the cards in the order that they were received by calling them up one by one.  get out your appointment book and fill it up with 'cheap dates.'  not cheap dates, but cheap dates.  you know.  go to a free concert, go for a walk, horseback riding, swimming, etc.

then, at the end of the summer, you won't go back to school all depressed and kill yourself in the first week due to negleting your social side.

Nah.

Just stop paying your bills.

You will be amazed how the phone will not stop ringing, the door bell will not stop chiming, and how many people you never knew existed will have an urge to talk to you. ;D

(You may even get to meet some important people in your community - judges, lawyers, police chiefs...) ;D

Best wishes,
Bernhard.
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Re: How lonely are you...
Reply #16 on: June 18, 2005, 02:06:01 AM
Nah.

Just stop paying your bills.

You will be amazed how the phone will not stop ringing, the door bell will not stop chiming, and how many people you never knew existed will have an urge to talk to you. ;D

(You may even get to meet some important people in your community - judges, lawyers, police chiefs...) ;D

Best wishes,
Bernhard.

hahah yes... i had a bit of a laugh from that. :)

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Re: How lonely are you...
Reply #17 on: June 18, 2005, 07:46:38 AM
i dont get lonely while practicing, but from now and then i do as a pianist.

at times, i also get lonely when people dont go to the chat room  ;D
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Reply #18 on: June 18, 2005, 08:38:33 AM
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Reply #19 on: June 18, 2005, 09:22:27 AM
AaAaLllllL ByYyYyY MyYyySeeEelllffFfff!!

the dogs are all gone?
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Reply #20 on: June 18, 2005, 09:43:34 PM
This is gonna sound very lame, but, I am my best friend. I love my own company and when people get in my "space" I generally get very cramped, edgy and pissed off and tell them very politely to go away (or, I just start practising.... eg.... drilling a difficult passage-- they get the point, or get bored)
Really, I dont need the company of others to not be lonely. I have my music and thats all that counts.
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Reply #21 on: June 18, 2005, 09:48:16 PM
I have felt bitterly lonely at times while practicing piano, but focusing  on the work at hand should elliviate. perhaps a break and a cup of tea will surfice(take a break)
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Reply #22 on: June 18, 2005, 10:18:13 PM
not so lonely practicing, cuz i concentrate more on what i'm doing when practicing and don't mind the solitude. but when playing... i can get lonely.
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Re: How lonely are you...
Reply #23 on: June 19, 2005, 12:35:46 AM
(Bob plays the blues to console the lonely people)

(suddenly remembers he can't really play the blues) "Dang!"

There are always the voices in your head to keep you company. 




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Re: How lonely are you...
Reply #24 on: June 19, 2005, 02:53:56 AM
Nah.

Just stop paying your bills.

You will be amazed how the phone will not stop ringing, the door bell will not stop chiming, and how many people you never knew existed will have an urge to talk to you. ;D

(You may even get to meet some important people in your community - judges, lawyers, police chiefs...) ;D

Best wishes,
Bernhard.


true very true LOL

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Reply #25 on: June 19, 2005, 10:09:02 AM
i dont get lonely when im playing because usually my parents are around somewhere listening anyway..it gets a bit lonely when there is noone in..but its also good.
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Reply #26 on: June 19, 2005, 11:38:48 AM
i dont get lonely when im playing because usually my parents are around somewhere listening anyway..it gets a bit lonely when there is noone in..but its also good.

call me when you need me.

eh! ;D
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Reply #27 on: June 19, 2005, 11:40:02 AM
call me when you need me.

eh! ;D

ha ha.. :P ..just wondering...how old are you and where are you from?
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Reply #28 on: June 19, 2005, 11:46:28 AM
ha ha.. :P ..just wondering...how old are you and where are you from?

i am prolly around your age, heh. besides, i got the feeling that we live close to each other ;)
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Re: How lonely are you...
Reply #29 on: June 19, 2005, 11:49:13 AM
Are you from England?
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Reply #30 on: June 19, 2005, 11:56:14 AM
nahhh...but m busting to england tho. ;D
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Reply #31 on: June 19, 2005, 12:05:58 PM
ha ha...i hate england..i'd rather be in America ;D
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Reply #32 on: June 19, 2005, 12:32:46 PM
and you wanna talk like americans too? :o
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Reply #33 on: June 19, 2005, 12:50:30 PM
The accent is cool  :D
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Reply #34 on: June 19, 2005, 01:08:19 PM
ok, then. you can come to my place, and listen to me talk  ;D

btw, can you cook?
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Reply #35 on: June 19, 2005, 01:39:40 PM
Nothing special....um..what do you like? :P
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Reply #36 on: June 19, 2005, 01:59:22 PM
anything you prepare, dear. :D. when r u coming?

ps. tds doesnt eat pork, tho.
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Reply #37 on: June 19, 2005, 02:23:43 PM
hmmm..how about pasta...i make good tomato and basil pasta ;D
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Reply #38 on: June 19, 2005, 05:44:23 PM
This is gonna sound very lame, but, I am my best friend. I love my own company and when people get in my "space" I generally get very cramped, edgy and pissed off and tell them very politely to go away (or, I just start practising.... eg.... drilling a difficult passage-- they get the point, or get bored)
Really, I dont need the company of others to not be lonely. I have my music and thats all that counts.

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Reply #39 on: June 19, 2005, 06:17:59 PM
This is gonna sound very lame, but, I am my best friend. I love my own company and when people get in my "space" I generally get very cramped, edgy and pissed off and tell them very politely to go away (or, I just start practising.... eg.... drilling a difficult passage-- they get the point, or get bored)
Really, I dont need the company of others to not be lonely. I have my music and thats all that counts.

Don't you have any close friends - even co-pianists or musicians?

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Reply #40 on: June 19, 2005, 08:53:36 PM
When I'm alone I like to stick my tail between my legs and pretend Im a lady
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Reply #41 on: June 20, 2005, 02:10:20 AM
When I'm alone I like to stick my tail between my legs and pretend Im a lady

then look in the mirror..make a raunchy face..sway your hips..spank your hips..and say..

"YOUR SUCH A DIRTY GIRL!..DIRTY GIRL!!!...REEOOWWCHH!!"

yes we all know how that one goes
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Reply #42 on: June 20, 2005, 09:52:02 AM
hmmm..how about pasta...i make good tomato and basil pasta ;D

yeaaaaah....i love pasta!!! bet you're a good cook! hey, i can make the bread for us.

so when r u coming, darl? i can do the grocery tomorrow  :D
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Reply #43 on: June 20, 2005, 02:50:13 PM
 get a room!
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Reply #44 on: June 20, 2005, 05:06:43 PM
yeaaaaah....i love pasta!!! bet you're a good cook! hey, i can make the bread for us.

so when r u coming, darl? i can do the grocery tomorrow  :D

Umm..i like homemade bread ;D ..i dunno when im coming :P
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Reply #45 on: June 20, 2005, 07:37:02 PM
TDS is so debonaire..he makes pierce brosnon look like ol' dirty bastard
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Reply #46 on: June 20, 2005, 07:39:54 PM
hehe...anytime darl. cant wait tho.... ;D
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Reply #47 on: June 20, 2005, 07:44:00 PM
lol allright :P
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Reply #48 on: June 20, 2005, 07:47:35 PM
TDS is so debonaire..he makes pierce brosnon look like ol' dirty bastard

tds learns the style from the right person. heh, tds

ps. thanks, guru!
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Reply #49 on: June 21, 2005, 05:09:03 PM
Don't you have any close friends - even co-pianists or musicians?

Ofcourse, my best friend is an excellent pianist, anither good friend a cellist, other pianists etc etc... And at the university here I know many of the students well. And even non-musicians.

But what I meant was, if they werent there, I could still thrive (with another one of my good friends, Frederich Chopin). I really dont need them to be happy, but dont get me wrong, I really really enjoy them there. They give me balance.

They just musn't cramp my space or overstay their welcome. But if you can talk on my level, then sure, stay for hours! Honestly, good company is wonderful!
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