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Offline jhon

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Have you tried playing a piece BACKWARDS?
on: July 10, 2005, 08:41:45 PM
I'm just curious what a certain piece would SOUND like if I play it (or at least sight-read) "backwards" (descending) - literally, as in you'll begin in the end-most note and you'll end at the very first note! 

(BTW, to the moderators, kindly MOVE this to "Performance" as I had the mistake of placing it under "Repertoire.")

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Re: Have you tried playing a piece BACKWARDS?
Reply #1 on: July 11, 2005, 06:44:17 AM
lol...we're not going to find satanic messages in Prokofiev are we? :p

Offline galonia

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Re: Have you tried playing a piece BACKWARDS?
Reply #2 on: July 12, 2005, 11:24:25 PM
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Re: Have you tried playing a piece BACKWARDS?
Reply #3 on: July 13, 2005, 01:56:50 AM
I have seen Jay Greenberg played a Beethoven sonata backwords and upside down on TV. He literally took the book and turned it upside down and started playing.

https://www.imgartists.com/?page=artist&id=597

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Re: Have you tried playing a piece BACKWARDS?
Reply #4 on: July 14, 2005, 02:31:52 AM
i tried doing it with a chopin waltz once, didn't get very far cos i was doing it out of boredom. maybe i'll try it again...
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Re: Have you tried playing a piece BACKWARDS?
Reply #5 on: July 14, 2005, 05:34:15 AM
Back when subliminal messages in Rock'n'Roll was still an issue, Frank Zappa recorded the vocals to one track completely backwards.  Ya Hozna
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Offline galonia

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Re: Have you tried playing a piece BACKWARDS?
Reply #6 on: July 14, 2005, 09:54:13 AM
This could quite possibly be in contention for the "worst topic in the history of pianostreet".


Bravo, jhon, you are a tremendous failure.

steinwayguy, this is so mean.  I don't think this is a bad topic - have you ever tried to write a piece where one part is exactly the reverse of the other part?  I have, and I've never got past 16 bars.  It's quite a hard thing to do, and then to make the piece actually sound good.  Try it.

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Re: Have you tried playing a piece BACKWARDS?
Reply #7 on: July 14, 2005, 12:19:18 PM
I have seen Jay Greenberg played a Beethoven sonata backwords and upside down on TV. He literally took the book and turned it upside down and started playing.

https://www.imgartists.com/?page=artist&id=597

Man that kid's amazing.  I think we'll definately be hearing more from him in the future.

As for the original topic i once heard a joke about this.  There's a student entering a composition competition and he's desperately looking for inspiration but nothing comes to him.  Finally it's the day before the presentation and he hasn't written a single note. He runs to his friend in tears,
"What can i do i've got nothing?"
"Well" replies the friend "just take one of your teachers compositions and play it backwards." 
"I already tried that," says the student "I got the moonlight sonata."
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Offline musicsdarkangel

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Re: Have you tried playing a piece BACKWARDS?
Reply #8 on: July 14, 2005, 03:05:16 PM
This could quite possibly be in contention for the "worst topic in the history of pianostreet".


Bravo, jhon, you are a tremendous failure.

Why are you always such a d*ck?

Offline tenn

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Re: Have you tried playing a piece BACKWARDS?
Reply #9 on: July 14, 2005, 03:51:51 PM
Rachmaninov Rhapsody on a theme of Paganini, 18th variation.

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Re: Have you tried playing a piece BACKWARDS?
Reply #10 on: July 14, 2005, 04:27:20 PM
that's just the theme. we're talking about literally backwards. every note.

Offline tenn

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Re: Have you tried playing a piece BACKWARDS?
Reply #11 on: July 14, 2005, 05:06:10 PM
that's just the theme. we're talking about literally backwards. every note.

I didn't see you talk about anything Dazzer, but please yourself.

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Re: Have you tried playing a piece BACKWARDS?
Reply #12 on: July 14, 2005, 07:10:16 PM
how about playing the right in the left and left in the right
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Re: Have you tried playing a piece BACKWARDS?
Reply #13 on: July 14, 2005, 11:39:54 PM
I've tried, but failed.
I think Lionel Rogg suggests playing a piece backwards when studying it to achieve fluidity in playing.

Offline mikeyg

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Re: Have you tried playing a piece BACKWARDS?
Reply #14 on: July 18, 2005, 02:53:50 AM
Harry potter's respect for stienwayguy++
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Re: Have you tried playing a piece BACKWARDS?
Reply #15 on: July 18, 2005, 08:27:55 PM
I'm just curious what a certain piece would SOUND like if I play it (or at least sight-read) "backwards" (descending) - literally, as in you'll begin in the end-most note and you'll end at the very first note! 

(BTW, to the moderators, kindly MOVE this to "Performance" as I had the mistake of placing it under "Repertoire.")

Perhaps the most famous piece relative to this is the Renaissance chanson ( translated )   "My End is My Beginning " by Machaut, in which the second half is the exact reversal of the first half- and it works!

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Re: Have you tried playing a piece BACKWARDS?
Reply #16 on: July 20, 2005, 12:43:14 AM
aibophobia: the fear of palindromes. ;D

https://www.creativekeyboard.com/jan02/palindrome.html
(An interesting article about musical palindromes with free sheet music)


https://www.sheetmusicplus.com/pages.html?cart=333069531611276930&target=smp_detail.html%26sku%3DMB.20125&s=pages-no-referrer&e=/sheetmusic/detail/MB.20125.html&t=&k=&r=wwws-err5
(Palindromes for piano – composed by Gail Smith amongst other aims to improve sight-reading).

Check out this guy: Sam Andreyev (He can speak backwards):

https://www.torporvigil.com/sambioblurb(addition).htm

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Re: Have you tried playing a piece BACKWARDS?
Reply #17 on: July 20, 2005, 12:45:11 AM
I guess most strict music would work as they're composed on the same principle of starting with the I and V chords and ending with the V and I chords.

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Re: Have you tried playing a piece BACKWARDS?
Reply #18 on: July 20, 2005, 12:45:41 AM
I have seen Jay Greenberg played a Beethoven sonata backwords and upside down on TV. He literally took the book and turned it upside down and started playing.

https://www.imgartists.com/?page=artist&id=597

I laughed when I watched this on TV. They made it look like he was the only person in the world capable of doing that. If you can sight-read well, you can do it. Beethoven got pissed as someone once and stormed into his rehearsal stole the cello part to the piece he was performing, turned the music upside down and began improvising off the melody.
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