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Offline vitaum88

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hello i'm new here please help me
on: July 11, 2005, 06:04:33 AM
Hey people...
This is my first post here.
First of all, i'm brazilian and i'm 16, so forgive my spelling mistakes, ok?
Well... this is it:
I've studied piano since Oct. 1995, and this year i'm going to graduate. However, there's a problem: my teacher is very helpful and all (she's in vacations ATM), but she told me to study the "Etudes" (Chopin, Hanon, Heller, etc etc), and well.. I don't know which to study first..
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I'm studying Hungarian Rhapsody #2 ATM (i've managed to play the Lassan and half of the Friska (slowly, veryyyyyyyyyyyyyy slowwwwwwww)), Ernesto Nazareth's brazilian tango (Odeon), Asturias (I. Albanez) and Organ Prelude in G minor (Bach - arranged for Piano by A. Siloti). And my Chopin's Militar Polonaise is READY TO ROCK BABY! (j/k.. it's perfect, I'd say... :p)
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It's kinda confusing, but this is it:
1- I can play the "Do-Mi-Sol" thingy (i don't know how it is called.. in portuguese it is 'Acorde') very well, this i think it's a good point!  :P
2- I can't rush my fingers through the piano as fast as hell! IT'S WAY TOO DIFFICULT! I screw everything up!  :'(
3- I need to know which Etudes should i study, and how often... And how long does it take to see the results..
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Please help me, I'd be grateful!   ;D
Thank you very much.
and now i close the door and head back to my cript...

Offline vitaum88

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Re: hello i'm new here please help me
Reply #1 on: July 11, 2005, 06:53:27 AM
this is it =X
and now i close the door and head back to my cript...

Offline bernhard

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Re: hello i'm new here please help me
Reply #2 on: July 11, 2005, 12:41:01 PM
Drop the Hanon. :o

Start with Heller. Once you feel comfortable with Heller, move on to Chopin and start with the 3 “nouvelle etudes” before embarking on op. 10 and op. 25).

Did she give you any specific studies, or just the composer’s names?

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1- I can play the "Do-Mi-Sol" thingy (i don't know how it is called.. in portuguese it is 'Acorde') very well, this i think it's a good point!   


If played together, the do-mi-sol thing is a “chord”. If played separately (do-mi-sol-do-mi-sol-do…etc,), it is called an arpeggio. I guess you mean an arpeggio.

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2- I can't rush my fingers through the piano as fast as hell! IT'S WAY TOO DIFFICULT! I screw everything up!   

So, don’t. There is plenty of music pout there that does not require you to go as fast as hell (and that includes most “fast pieces”).

It is very important to realise that you do not need to move fast in order to sound fast.

In the meantime have a look here :P:

https://pianoforum.net/smf/index.php/topic,3778.msg35061.html#msg35061
(Speed: discussion about gradually speeding up with a metronome or using Chang’s approach)

https://pianoforum.net/smf/index.php/topic,3371.msg30141.html#msg30141
(zoom-zoom – all about speed playing)

https://pianoforum.net/smf/index.php/topic,4851.msg47341.html#msg47341
(Practising for speed – Example: Beethoven Op. 49 no. 2)

https://pianoforum.net/smf/index.php/topic,5083.msg48306.html#msg48306
(More questions on fast speed practice – the eldorado analogy - collection of links)

https://pianoforum.net/smf/index.php/topic,2076.msg17157.html#msg17157
(Speed – the 3 most important factors)

https://pianoforum.net/smf/index.php/topic,2230.msg20686.html#msg20686
(Octaves and fast octaves – excellent post by Robert Henry)

https://pianoforum.net/smf/index.php/topic,1808.msg23879.html#msg23879
(Ultra fast arpeggios – slow practice x slow motion practice – good post by Herve – Abby whiteside is also mentioned)

https://pianoforum.net/smf/index.php/topic,4164.msg39149.html#msg39149
(CC Chang and relaxation for playing fast passages)

https://pianoforum.net/smf/index.php/topic,4282.msg39831.html#msg39831
(How to increase speed: slowly using metronome x fast with chord attack – juggling and skiping rope as examples)

https://pianoforum.net/smf/index.php/topic,4144.msg40259.html#msg40259
(improving speed of LH – move the whole LH not only fingers)

https://www.pianoforum.net/smf/index.php/topic,8322.msg84686.html#msg84686
(speed and muscle tension – 3 important components of speed playing)

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3- I need to know which Etudes should i study, and how often... And how long does it take to see the results..

Study the ones you would love to play as pieces in their own right :D. Everyday  :P(consistency is the key)

And how long is piece of string? (If you do not see results of some kind pretty much immediately, you are doing something wrong. Do something else!) ;)

Best wishes,
Bernhard.

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Re: hello i'm new here please help me
Reply #3 on: July 11, 2005, 01:08:41 PM
If played together, the do-mi-sol thing is a “chord”. If played separately (do-mi-sol-do-mi-sol-do…etc,), it is called an arpeggio. I guess you mean an arpeggio.

No he meant chord, he called it "acorde", wich is like "accord" in french, wich mean chord. So he probably meant that he has good knowledge of harmonic progressions etc.

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Re: hello i'm new here please help me
Reply #4 on: July 11, 2005, 01:52:16 PM
yeah. terry is right.. i meant a chord (harmonic stuff) =D
and thank you a lot bernard.. i'll try what u told me ok? thank you again
and now i close the door and head back to my cript...
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