octave glissandi - right hand going up

[march05]

anyone can do this? how??

i came across this in a piece i can't remember now, and it's written (i think) in such a way that you have to play it with yer right hand.

[Dazzer]

i believe this has been posted before...

https://www.pianostreet.com/smf/index.php/topic,10555.0.html

https://www.pianostreet.com/smf/index.php/topic,3159.0.html

search for Octave Gliss in the search engine.

[Etude]

Hamelin played an ascending rh 8ve gliss in his HR2 cadenza.

[Skeptopotamus]

gawd I hate those.....  Lucky for us they almost never come up ^^

[ramseytheii]

Even more difficult, how about the glissandi in fourths, and then one in thirds, in Ravel's Alborado?  The fingering for the glissando in fourths is marked 4-2. Is it possible?

Walter Ramsey

[thalbergmad]

gawd I hate those.....  Lucky for us they almost never come up ^^

Thank God for that.

Came up in the Tausig-Weber-Invitation to the Dance.

Never did get it right.

[Skeptopotamus]

Even more difficult, how about the glissandi in fourths, and then one in thirds, in Ravel's Alborado?  The fingering for the glissando in fourths is marked 4-2. Is it possible?

Walter Ramsey

those arent too bad if you position your hand correctly.

[march05]

Even more difficult, how about the glissandi in fourths, and then one in thirds, in Ravel's Alborado?  The fingering for the glissando in fourths is marked 4-2. Is it possible?

Walter Ramsey

Hey, actually I find the alborada gliss easier than octave gliss in brahms' paganini. in the alborada i use 2-5 on the ascending and 1-4 on the descending. first i space the 2 fingers a fourth-wide, then i keep it that way and just slide my whole arm the the right or left...

[ramseytheii]

Hey, actually I find the alborada gliss easier than octave gliss in brahms' paganini. in the alborada i use 2-5 on the ascending and 1-4 on the descending. first i space the 2 fingers a fourth-wide, then i keep it that way and just slide my whole arm the the right or left...

The descending is no problem, but I just can't get my mind aruond the contortions necessary to do a glissando upwards! Your nail is facing the direction of the glissando i assume?  I can't picture it, how it should look to do a glissando in fourths.

Walter Ramsey

[lostinidlewonder]

Going up the keyboard you have to ensure that you dont use t he PAD of the thumb, rather the outside corner. That does requires some contortion if you have smaller hands, so you have to rotate the Rh thumb a little to the left so that the edge of the thumb catches the note.

Secondly the little finger must bend so that the nail is sliding on the note. If you look at the hand from underneath when you have this form the corner of the thumb and the nail of the little finger should line up. This sorta thing is too hard to explain in words really, and the physical structure of peoples hands is all different so it varies how you exactly excecute it. A good way to practice it however is to play just the thumb by itself while leaving the little finger close to but not playing the notes. Then swap it over, make the little finger trail by itself and the thumb just touch its notes. Then try to play them both together. The feeling playing it with just one finger should be the same as when you play it with both.