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Offline pseudopianist

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Chopin 25/5 Wrong Note
on: July 18, 2005, 06:58:16 PM
I started learning this lovely piece not too long ago (This was a backup piece that I choose if I couldn't handle Rachs 39/5... which I couldn't. But since I love this piece more... meh) and I have the first page almost up to my desired speed. I hate the fact that it changes from the one dotted rhythm to staight eightnotes right before the 2nd variation and the next variation the notes are a head of the beat... ahhh it is a really mind teaser.

I have a few questions about this piece

1. At bar 57 (During the arpeggios) I have the notes G# C# A# and sound be played
                                                                           G#
with the fingering 1 2+4 ? what finger should I use for the A# so I can get to the next arpeggio (E G#+B A#) legato? I wanna use my thumb but that won't work since I need it on the E.

2. Which are the trickest parts of the piece?

3. Is it okay to use pedal throught the piece, but very carefully?

4. For you who have played it. Any suggestions?
Thanks in advance
Whisky and Messiaen

Offline steinwayguy

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Re: Chopin 25/5 Wrong Note
Reply #1 on: July 19, 2005, 03:01:35 AM
1. I'm too lazy to look now. Sorry  :-\

2. The hardest part I think is the middle section, as seems to be common in Chopin etudes. After that, the third section ("recap" of sorts) is very difficult too.

3. I vary my pedal usage to prevent monotony. The first and third sections of the piece are based on the exact same melody and harmonic progression, which repeats every phrase.

The purpose of the dotted rhythms and straight eights and then the grace notes are to vary the articulation and make it sound totally different from each other, but with the common progression.

Don't play the middle section at the metronome marking, it's way too fast.

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Re: Chopin 25/5 Wrong Note
Reply #2 on: July 19, 2005, 12:18:17 PM
Yeah I noticed that to play the middle 168 makes it lose it's charmig character. But 168 = Piu Lento? Wow thats really fast even for piu lento. ;)

What scares me the most is the repeation of the A section but with an extra note and the middle part when it goes into 16th notes, then you have to rethink were the hands will meet and... GAAAH


Thanks for your help.
Whisky and Messiaen

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Re: Chopin 25/5 Wrong Note
Reply #3 on: July 19, 2005, 01:31:49 PM
Yeah, it's a hard etude to coordinate well.

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Re: Chopin 25/5 Wrong Note
Reply #4 on: July 19, 2005, 01:53:50 PM
Agreed
Whisky and Messiaen
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