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« on: August 11, 2005, 09:46:54 PM »

why are both of these considered level 7 when C de L is turning out to be easier for me to learn/play.

IOW I think I have a better shot at learning C de L right now than Path. 2nd mvmt.  It is coming to me easier.

I can play level 4-5 pieces fairly easily, but all the stuff I really love and want to learn is at least level 6.

Am also learning Bach preludes & Little Notebook for technique.  Plan to start on Scarlatti sonatas as well.  Ditched the Hanon as it was hurting my rt. hand too much.  Have bookmarked a lot of Bernhard threads pertaining to Bach and Scarlatti.

Should I forget the early advanced stuff and plug away at the easier stuff for awhile.  I was thinking I could learn one "hard" piece at a time, while continuing to work on technique w/ easier material.

p.s. I set aside Chopin 9/2 for the time being, the rt hand is easy but the left is hard for me right now (especially when playing HT). 
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« Reply #1 on: August 11, 2005, 10:33:34 PM »

Wow you are like the complete opposite of me. I can play the second movement easily now and I waited to play the Clair De Lune. I guess it isn't that I couldn't manage it but I am not to familiar yet with key signtures witrh more than 4 sharps or flats. It just gets a little confusing and it takes a little more time.

As for why they are both at level 7 I really don't know. Adagio Cantabile seems to be a lot easier. The speed requied in the Clair de Lune is a little faster than that of Adagio Cantabile. The arpeggios make it more challenging as well as the key signature.

And your plan sounds good to me. If you are working with lesson books make sure to stay consistent with those. Since you know that you worked up to that point you know that you can play those pieces. They will also help to develop your technique. If you are past books, then I would say make sure that you are staying consistent with "something" to delevop your technique. Your idea of working with one hard piece is something I do as well. Take a little bit at a time and before you know it that piece will be mastered.

Hope I was of help Smiley
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« Reply #2 on: August 12, 2005, 01:44:41 AM »

Wow you are like the complete opposite of me. I can play the second movement easily now and I waited to play the Clair De Lune. I guess it isn't that I couldn't manage it but I am not to familiar yet with key signtures witrh more than 4 sharps or flats. It just gets a little confusing and it takes a little more time.

As for why they are both at level 7 I really don't know. Adagio Cantabile seems to be a lot easier. The speed requied in the Clair de Lune is a little faster than that of Adagio Cantabile. The arpeggios make it more challenging as well as the key signature.

And your plan sounds good to me. If you are working with lesson books make sure to stay consistent with those. Since you know that you worked up to that point you know that you can play those pieces. They will also help to develop your technique. If you are past books, then I would say make sure that you are staying consistent with "something" to delevop your technique. Your idea of working with one hard piece is something I do as well. Take a little bit at a time and before you know it that piece will be mastered.

Hope I was of help Smiley

Yes, thank you.  So for C de L the reasons for level 7 are - key change, arpeggios, tempo... maybe big chords??  I don't know what else it could be.  ( You can tell I don't have a teacher right now. Tongue )  Anyway, I am noticing my L hand has gotten better than my R at arpeggios (when practicing them generally) because of C de L. Smiley

Mvmt 2 of Pathetique is harder for me because there's a lot going on with it even though it's slower tempo.  It's more intricate (IMO) and I think some more Bach practice would help me prepare for it better.

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