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Topic: Chopin etude in f minor opus 10 nr. 9  (Read 9667 times)

Offline lava

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Chopin etude in f minor opus 10 nr. 9
on: August 14, 2005, 02:54:27 PM
A live recording of Chopin's study in f minor opus 10 nr. 9.

It takes a lot of stretching for the left hand but I've got quite big hands so that's not really a problem.

The recording itself contains a bit distortion, but is still enjoyable.

Another Chopin étude (nouvelle etude in f minor) which I played at the same performance can be found here: https://www.pianostreet.com/smf/index.php/topic,11721.0.html.
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Offline nanabush

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Re: Chopin etude in f minor opus 10 nr. 9
Reply #1 on: August 15, 2005, 03:27:26 AM
Sounds good, but not too sure if you were playin rubato or playin in 4/4 at starting...If it's rubato I would cut down a bit..
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Re: Chopin etude in f minor opus 10 nr. 9
Reply #2 on: August 15, 2005, 06:06:20 AM
You're right. I start rubato, holding the the first low f too long. I did't take piano lessons since 1992 until only one year ago. My teacher pointed me a the same thing: start immediately in the right tempo and keep it steady. There's still a lot to improve.

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Re: Chopin etude in f minor opus 10 nr. 9
Reply #3 on: August 15, 2005, 09:22:38 PM
It still sounds great though, you should feel good about learning this without having lessons in so long..
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Re: Chopin etude in f minor opus 10 nr. 9
Reply #4 on: August 15, 2005, 09:45:34 PM
that is a good recording. What fingering did you use in the LH? My friend is learning it and is currently using 5-4, but not sure what it is suppose to be.

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Re: Chopin etude in f minor opus 10 nr. 9
Reply #5 on: August 15, 2005, 10:16:29 PM
I like the 3rd finger to pivot on, so left hand mostly 531313. Sometimes with 2 and only a few times 4.

Get a good edition with fingering.

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Re: Chopin etude in f minor opus 10 nr. 9
Reply #6 on: August 16, 2005, 11:37:35 PM
We looked at a couple of editions and one had 5414145 and the other 5314135. Switching between the 4 and 3. just curious what you do.

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Re: Chopin etude in f minor opus 10 nr. 9
Reply #7 on: August 17, 2005, 05:50:13 AM
...good dynamic contrast...
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Re: Chopin etude in f minor opus 10 nr. 9
Reply #8 on: August 17, 2005, 06:32:32 AM
Watch out for accents that don't fit in the melody line in the right hand. You often have accents on the last note of a phrase, which will make many pianists quite angry lol.

And indeed, you hold the f in the left hand to long.

However, your dynamics were great :) .

Offline lava

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Re: Chopin etude in f minor opus 10 nr. 9
Reply #9 on: August 19, 2005, 04:54:07 PM
Thanks, Kassaa you are right about the accents. My teacher also points on the importance of accents and phrasing.

Not to excuse myself, but this was recorded only 6 months after I started piano lessons again (after about 13 years "self-study"). But I am eager to learn.



 

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Re: Chopin etude in f minor opus 10 nr. 9
Reply #10 on: August 19, 2005, 07:09:30 PM
Thanks, Kassaa you are right about the accents. My teacher also points on the importance of accents and phrasing.

Not to excuse myself, but this was recorded only 6 months after I started piano lessons again (after about 13 years "self-study"). But I am eager to learn.



 
Well, it would be fantastic if you would post a recording when you have worked on the accents and phrasing :) .
 
I'm really curious, because this recording was quite good already :) .

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Re: Chopin etude in f minor opus 10 nr. 9
Reply #11 on: June 20, 2010, 09:57:42 PM
creo que este es el estudio más fácil de Chopin, no es difícil de memorizar y la única verdadera dificultad es la mano izquierda que le exige mucho al dedo 4, creo que este estudio es mejor para empezar a ver los estudios de Chopin que el Op.10  No.6

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Re: Chopin etude in f minor opus 10 nr. 9
Reply #12 on: June 21, 2010, 12:45:21 AM
the sheets are for all of us? I tried to click the urtext one. I know for certain pianostreet.com dont own that. whats up?

Offline point of grace

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Re: Chopin etude in f minor opus 10 nr. 9
Reply #13 on: June 21, 2010, 02:10:59 AM
oh, that Chopins famous left hand... remember me the prelude no. 24...
Learning:

Chopin Polonaise Op. 53
Brahms Op. 79 No. 2
Rachmaninoff Op. 16 No. 4 and 5

Offline gyzzzmo

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Re: Chopin etude in f minor opus 10 nr. 9
Reply #14 on: June 21, 2010, 08:26:02 AM
Your rubato doesnt make much sense really. Try to play with the melody and keep the left hand as a steady background and post it again  ;)

Oh, and have a better look at those notes at the measure before that last F

Gyzzz
1+1=11
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