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Offline palika dunno

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volodos....
on: September 08, 2005, 04:03:43 PM
yeah...i wanna see this carnegie hall video once more: https://www.sonyclassical.com/videos/60893/volodos_epk.ram

but the link is dead  >:( >:( >:( do you know one that works?...or can you share this video?

regards
palika

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Re: volodos....
Reply #1 on: October 01, 2005, 07:16:03 PM
It's not dead for me... ;D
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Re: volodos....
Reply #2 on: October 01, 2005, 07:20:06 PM
He is awsome I love him
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Re: volodos....
Reply #3 on: October 02, 2005, 12:21:52 AM
pnm://real.sony.global.speedera.net/real.sony.global/SonyClassical/volodosepk.rm

Have fun. :)

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Re: volodos....
Reply #4 on: October 02, 2005, 03:43:58 AM
volodos is a great pianist
too bad he wastes his time on showoff stuff - encores, and not deep music. like the music of schumann,beethoven and bach

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Re: volodos....
Reply #5 on: October 02, 2005, 05:51:04 AM
volodos is a great pianist
too bad he wastes his time on showoff stuff - encores, and not deep music. like the music of schumann,beethoven and bach

 >:( Are you saying Rachmaninoff isn't deep ?!? He's at least as deep as all of those.  >:( And the only thing Volodos cares about is music. He care little for show-offing. You think he's show-offing because it impresses you, but it's not the objective. Piano technique is the least of his problems ...

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Re: volodos....
Reply #6 on: October 02, 2005, 12:06:23 PM
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pnm://real.sony.global.speedera.net/real.sony.global/SonyClassical/volodosepk.rm

Have fun. Smiley

thank you so much  :D :D :D :) :) ;D :D :)

palika  :)

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Re: volodos....
Reply #7 on: October 02, 2005, 12:13:47 PM
volodos is a great pianist
too bad he wastes his time on showoff stuff - encores, and not deep music. like the music of schumann,beethoven and bach

i wouldnt say its a waste of time, as he has a world-class tech and this wont last forever, its always best to play more physically demanding music when you are younger.

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Reply #8 on: October 02, 2005, 12:37:40 PM
volodos is a great pianist
too bad he wastes his time on showoff stuff - encores, and not deep music. like the music of schumann,beethoven and bach

A recording of some of Schubert's piano sonatas is a more recent release by Volodos.

https://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B00005Y1N1/102-4167494-2732916

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Re: volodos....
Reply #9 on: October 02, 2005, 03:38:58 PM
don't get me wrong
i think volodos is a great pianist. one of the greatest of our time. he such so much talent.
but why he is wasting his time on encores?
for example, the encores cd he released. concert version of mozart alla turka? come on. this piece has nothing musical and it's pure show off.
where is his beethoven? bach? REAL mozart? schumann?

i love his Rach3 and it's probably my favorite recording of this piece. his rachmaninov is amazing.

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Reply #10 on: October 02, 2005, 05:53:01 PM
He does seem to play a lot of encores and showpieces, but if you are capable, why not?

I have a recording of a Schubert Sonata, which is as good as any.
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Reply #11 on: October 03, 2005, 12:48:39 AM
don't get me wrong
i think volodos is a great pianist. one of the greatest of our time. he such so much talent.
but why he is wasting his time on encores?
for example, the encores cd he released. concert version of mozart alla turka? come on. this piece has nothing musical and it's pure show off.
where is his beethoven? bach? REAL mozart? schumann?

i love his Rach3 and it's probably my favorite recording of this piece. his rachmaninov is amazing.

the rondo alla turka is one of mozart's most famous pieces

can you prove how his version is musically inferior to the original?

i think its superior

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Reply #12 on: October 04, 2005, 12:26:20 AM
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the rondo alla turka is one of mozart's most famous pieces

I think this is pretty well known, but what does that have to do with anything?

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can you prove how his version is musically inferior to the original?

This is nonsensical. How can you prove that chopsticks is inferior to Appassionata? You could make a reasoned argument, but to PROVE it...

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i think its superior

I glad you think so. Some of us prefer the simple whimsy of Mozart to the overblown virtuosity of Volodos's wriiting. It's an impressive piece, no doubt, rather like the Godowsky studies on Chopin etudes. Most serious musicians that I know would, without denigrating the arrangements, prefer the original forms. Sometimes less is more.
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Re: volodos....
Reply #13 on: October 05, 2005, 03:08:22 AM
With regards to his encores, I verry much love his arrangements.  Mozart wrote variations and arrangements of popular tunes during his day, Volodos is just continuing the tradition.  So why is it that we look down upon arrangements of our contemporaries yet praise those by the great musicians of our past? 

Is music just about the serious stuff, and academia? No, but unfortunatly many musicians restrict it to that.  Anyways, if you want deep check out his Scriabin 10th sonata.  Quite a unique interpretation. 

"Showoff" music in the hands of Volodos ceases to become a fury of notes and instead turns into something magical and spectacular. 

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Reply #14 on: October 05, 2005, 03:36:05 AM
"Showoff" music in the hands of Volodos ceases to become a fury of notes and instead turns into something magical and spectacular. 


Wich is allways suposed to be.

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Reply #15 on: October 05, 2005, 03:41:17 AM
With regards to his encores, I verry much love his arrangements.  Mozart wrote variations and arrangements of popular tunes during his day, Volodos is just continuing the tradition.  So why is it that we look down upon arrangements of our contemporaries yet praise those by the great musicians of our past? 

Is music just about the serious stuff, and academia? No, but unfortunatly many musicians restrict it to that.  Anyways, if you want deep check out his Scriabin 10th sonata.  Quite a unique interpretation. 

"Showoff" music in the hands of Volodos ceases to become a fury of notes and instead turns into something magical and spectacular. 



For the record, I have no issue whatsoever with his encore pieces. I adore Horowitz, and am always thrilled by his arrangement of the Liszt HR #2. Pyrotechnics and sheer virtuosity certainly has its place, especially when it becomes "something magical and spectacular." I just would call Mozart a better composer, and I doubt Volodos would disagree with my opinion.
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Re: volodos....
Reply #16 on: October 05, 2005, 05:52:54 AM
Anybody have any updates about his alcohol problems?

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Reply #17 on: October 05, 2005, 10:46:36 AM
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Anybody have any updates about his alcohol problems?

he has alcohol problems?  :o :o :o
really?  :o :o :o
how do you know?  :o :o :o

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Re: volodos....
Reply #18 on: October 05, 2005, 12:37:13 PM
why shouldnt he be able to do what he wants? if encores is what he wants let him. he doesnt have to do Bach and Mozart. maybe he finds it boring.

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Reply #19 on: October 05, 2005, 04:55:02 PM
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he has alcohol problems?   
really?   
how do you know?

He has cancelled some shows  in recent times and some rumours indicate that he cancelled due to to Alcohol problems.

Offline thierry13

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Reply #20 on: October 08, 2005, 06:14:21 AM
why shouldnt he be able to do what he wants? if encores is what he wants let him. he doesnt have to do Bach and Mozart. maybe he finds it boring.

I do. I can only apreciate SOME few works by Bach, some (many) by scarlatti, some (few) by Mozart. But in general, I find them boring.

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Reply #21 on: October 08, 2005, 04:51:01 PM
I think this is pretty well known, but what does that have to do with anything?

This is nonsensical. How can you prove that chopsticks is inferior to Appassionata? You could make a reasoned argument, but to PROVE it...

I glad you think so. Some of us prefer the simple whimsy of Mozart to the overblown virtuosity of Volodos's wriiting. It's an impressive piece, no doubt, rather like the Godowsky studies on Chopin etudes. Most serious musicians that I know would, without denigrating the arrangements, prefer the original forms. Sometimes less is more.

well it uses essentially the same themetic material and harmonic progressions, with added much more colourful piano writing, i just dont see how it is in any way inferior.

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Reply #22 on: October 08, 2005, 06:50:02 PM
While you are all on the topic of Volodos, does anyone hav ethe sheet music for his version of Polka Italienne (Rachmaninov I think)? I have an mp3 and it is amazing. If anybody has it, could you please tell me where to get it or email me at: barrypilk@bigfoot.com
Thanks,
Tom
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