a dream

[pianistimo]

took a much needed nap this afternoon and had a very succinct dream.  (i have had three semesters of piano lessons and tho i haven't had lessons this semester, plan to next - if my teacher can take me - for my master's recital).  anyway, i hardly ever dream - so this was kind of amazing to dream and then remember it afterwards.  wish i knew what it meant!

ok.  here's the dream:  i was practicing in a practice room downstairs (there are no practice rooms downstairs at wcu (?) and the room was open or large and somehow people were passing and my teacher happened to see me.  i thought, 'oh good, he's coming this way.'  i thought he might just listen and then keep on going, but he did stop.  so i said, 'i've been meaning to talk to you.'  then he asked what i planned to perform for the recital.  i said 'pretty much everything i've been working on with you.'  we went through the order of the first half, and he decided to conduct the mozart for me whilst sort of singing it.  i'd never seen him get so involved, so i quietly listened to pick up hints on the tempo - but then, suddenly in the middle section - his hands started going around and around at this incredibly fast tempo  (i tilted my head back and started laughing - and then i incredulously said, 'you mean at that tempo?')he got really angry and then i realized i had made a bad mistake - i tried to become serious again and remember my place.  i don't recall anything said about the second half of the recital.  i think my dream ended there.  what could this mean? 

[Torp]

what could this mean? 

Your meds are wearing off??

Oh man, I did it again....sorry pianistimo, it's all in good fun.

(I sure hope I can run faster than you)

[pianistimo]

med's huh!  let me think, did i take any before going to sleep?  no.  but i did eat some salty pretzels.  maybe the rock salt did it.

[thalbergmad]

I often have a strange dream, where i am playing in a concert and the keyboard keeps getting smaller and smaller until there is only 1 key left.

[pianistimo]

that's a strange one, too.  ok - i'll interpret yours if you interpret mine.

the keyboard is getting smaller because you are arfraid you are getting bigger.  this phobia started when your stool broke the other day (only due to age - not yours -the stool's)  your fears are somewhat irrational, since you know that keyboards cannot be any less than 88 keys - nevertheless the idea of a shrinking keyboard reminds you of the 'shrink' that once gave you an 'all ice-cream diet' and then was never seen of or heard by you again.  don't worry.  you'll be fine.  seriously, our deepest fears must be expressed in dreams like this *and they're probably very irrational.  you can't gain weight by bicycling and hiking like you do!

[gorbee natcase]

I was going to start a similar topic to this.

I have recuring dreams featuring the piano. When my practice is going well the piano is shining, and perfect. when my practice is going bad the piano is old, out of tune, and is falling apart, as I try to play. It is a vivid dream and I am trying so hard. I think it represents determination and failure, to success. A barometer for my emotional state perhaps. This is true about a year ago I had got to the stage of a piece of music where you know where something clicks and you start playing it well, I noticed that my finger was bleeding quite badly and I was so worried that if I stopped it would take me time to get to that state again that I completely covered the piano in blood untill my fingers were slipping on the keys and snotts of blood were clotting on the piano keys and making strings as I lifted my fingers.It took me all day to clean and scrape the piano, and there is still traces of blood between the keys which I can not get access too. I dont know what that means but any way

[Torp]

I often have a strange dream, where i am playing in a concert and the keyboard keeps getting smaller and smaller until there is only 1 key left.

I think it just means that subconsciously you know that the piece your playing is easy...as easy as playing one note.

pianistimo could be right though, it may be much darker than that.

[prometheus]

Since when do dreams mean anything?


They are just reflections of yourself in the mirror of your consciousness with your creativity is let lose on it.


(Or something like that. I think when I made this up it was in my native language.)

[thalbergmad]

that's a strange one, too.  ok - i'll interpret yours if you interpret mine.

the keyboard is getting smaller because you are arfraid you are getting bigger.  this phobia started when your stool broke the other day (only due to age - not yours -the stool's)  your fears are somewhat irrational, since you know that keyboards cannot be any less than 88 keys - nevertheless the idea of a shrinking keyboard reminds you of the 'shrink' that once gave you an 'all ice-cream diet' and then was never seen of or heard by you again.  don't worry.  you'll be fine.  seriously, our deepest fears must be expressed in dreams like this *and they're probably very irrational.  you can't gain weight by bicycling and hiking like you do!

Good response pianistimo, i have been worried by my weight.

I have put on 4 stone since i gave up smoking and no amount of cycling or hiking seems to shift it. I don't eat as much as i used to and only drink mineral water. Obviously, a man of 5ft 8 inches should not be over 18 stone.

I saw the doctor last week and he said i was suffering from nicotine poisining. It appears that i overdid the nicotine replacement treatment when i gave up. I have also given some blood and get the tests back next week. Don't know exactly what he is checking for, but he wrote obesity on the blood test request form.

I have heard that some girls smoke as it speeds up the metabolism. Perhaps i am suffering from the reverse effect.

[bernhard]

The large, open practice room is your life (the fact that it does not exist in wcu, means that your life does not really exist there but in some other place, yet it is “taken” from there)

The several people passing by (and this includes your teacher) are you. In real life, the person you regard as your teacher is not really him, but rather projections of your inner self onto him. This part of your inner self that you project onto your teacher in real life is the “teacher” in your dream. He is mostly unconscious, so now he  (that is, that particular part of your unconscious) is trying to communicate something to you through this dream.

This is all I can tell you from what you told us. His communication – as is always the case with the unconscious – was in symbols – symbols that your conscious, awaken awareness cannot really understand. The arm-flapping is probably important, but the symbol is probably too particular and private to you. What connections spontaneously appear in your mind when faced with arm-flapping? If you truly and seriously want to pursue this stuff, you must start by keeping a notebook by your bed and writing down your dreams (or however little you remember them) immediately on waking up.

Best wishes,
Bernhard.

P.S. Gorbee’s and Thalbergmad’s dreams are standard textbook cases of Freudian (that is sexual) dreams. To analyse them is to risk being banned (hint to Gorbee: piano=female, blood… Hint to thalbergmad: one key left eh? I am amazed you were playing a piano and not an organ) . Recommended reading: “The interpretation of Dreams” (Sigmund Freud).

[bernhard]

Good response pianistimo, i have been worried by my weight.

I have put on 4 stone since i gave up smoking and no amount of cycling or hiking seems to shift it. I don't eat as much as i used to and only drink mineral water. Obviously, a man of 5ft 8 inches should not be over 18 stone.

I saw the doctor last week and he said i was suffering from nicotine poisining. It appears that i overdid the nicotine replacement treatment when i gave up. I have also given some blood and get the tests back next week. Don't know exactly what he is checking for, but he wrote obesity on the blood test request form.

I have heard that some girls smoke as it speeds up the metabolism. Perhaps i am suffering from the reverse effect.

He is checking for Diabetes type II (did you have to take blood before eating breakfast? If so that is it).

If he tells you you have diabetes take it with a large pinch of salt. Drug companies convinced the medical establishment to raise the benchmarks for diabetes in 1998, so that now in the UK there is an "epidemy" of diabetes, simply because of this comittee decision. Even if you have diabetes type II, it is easily controlled by diet and exercise, but some overzealous doctors are known to have put people on insulin - which is exactly what a dibetic type II does not need (s.he already has far too much insulin in the blood).

Best wishes,
Bernhard.

[prometheus]

This reminds me of the Star Trek episode where Data has a dream and goes to the holodeck and asks a simulation or Freud for answers, he doesn't know better. The guy is totally insane and seems very troubled. He gets out all his major themes on every occasion; the It, the Ego. I think the simulation even suggests that Mr. Data's dream means that his Thanatos wants to kill his father and rape his mother. Of course this makes totally no sense at all in the case of Data. Anyway, this Freud is one big riducule. But it seems that there is some kind of computer virus in the ship and that the Freud in the holodeck is actually part of subconscious of the starship's computer trying to warn Data about the virus, or rather a dream of the on-board computer of the Enterprise. And Data actually had the dreams because he subconsciously observed signs of this virus. Of course Freud was right and saved the day.

The only one that can analyse your dreams is yourself. And I don't believe in universal simbolism. How do I know the piano symbolizes a female individual? Surely people that didn't read Freud on dreams can still dream about piano's, right?

[thalbergmad]

He is checking for Diabetes type II (did you have to take blood before eating breakfast? If so that is it).

If he tells you you have diabetes take it with a large pinch of salt. Drug companies convinced the medical establishment to raise the benchmarks for diabetes in 1998, so that now in the UK there is an "epidemy" of diabetes, simply because of this comittee decision. Even if you have diabetes type II, it is easily controlled by diet and exercise, but some overzealous doctors are known to have put people on insulin - which is exactly what a dibetic type II does not need (s.he already has far too much insulin in the blood).

Best wishes,
Bernhard.

Least its not cancer. My lungs are ok.

I have turned into a bit of an hypo over the last couple of years. Always expect the worst.

This could be one of my last posts.

[bernhard]

I have turned into a bit of an hypo over the last couple of years. Always expect the worst.

This could be one of my last posts.

Turn it to your advantage. In the other board there is a whole bunch of girls going gaga and drooling over some Hipopothamus pictures.

[thalbergmad]

Turn it to your advantage. In the other board there is a whole bunch of girls going gaga and drooling over some Hipopothamus pictures.

I get too many PM's begging for a date on this forum as it is.

[gorbee natcase]

IABMBH I am breaking my back here

IASC   I am so cute

WAISU   why am I so nugly tugly

IDWTD  I don't want to die

LWTMOI   large women turn me on and don't forget it and

HIDWDPLM   help i'm drowning why dont people like me

[pianistimo]

wow.  a lot of responses since i last posted.  thanks everybody.  and, thalbergmad has been so gentlemanly as to not give me the first interpretation he probably got from my dream.  (probably dealing with the arm-flapping).  and, i hope all goes well with your tests and you don't have to deal with diabetes (or at least injections) and can modify your diet and remain smoke free! 

bernhard, i think you are a mind reader.  even if i could better interpret the dream myself, as prometheus put it well - i probably couldn't have thought what was so obvious right away.  that my life isn't really at wcu (i do practice more at home - and my 'life' is more there).  but, i do take meaning for my life from music as well.  where i might beg to differ is that i consider myself capable of teaching myself (i don't).  i REALLY like my teacher.  and, i highly respect him.  but, occasionally have joked too much and not been serious enough (or probably practiced as much as the other students).  therefore, i am kind of wondering if this dream is telling me not to be afraid of getting more serious and practicing enough to play at the tempos he suggests.  also, i am afraid of losing him because if he gets angry enough - he'll just get another student to replace me.  (i think this is my greatest fear).  music means a lot to me - and it seems that he holds a large dream of mine in his hands (even though if i practiced a lot, it might be in my hands more).  itend to rely on my husband, teachers, etc more than i should.  i don't know why.  it's kind of scary to contemplate trying to be as knowledgeable and sort of 'faking it' for a few years.  it's easier to rely on them.  and, on the whole my husband is happy to let me rely on him (he's very sweet and caring).  on the other hand, i also feel motivated by a teacher that could take me or leave me and really doesn't have my dreams as his number one motivation - just results.  this puts me in a position of being more responsible and it scares me for some really strange reason (i don't know why).  i am responsible with my family - it's just that i've not been responsible to handle information (and teaching) at a higher level and i feel like my lifeline right now is my teacher.  it's like being on a fence and trying to decide which way to fall over.