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Offline chsmike2345

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The greatest (or your favorite) composer of all
on: August 20, 2003, 04:32:36 AM
Who do you guys all like? I know this is a common question... but, I think Rachmaninoff is THE greatest composer of all time, with great emotion (all pieces), melodies (rach 2 concerto movement 3), and difficulty (rach3 is arguably the hardest piece of all). I believe the best concerto ever is the rach 3, not only is it monumental, but when i listen to it it gives me chills and emotions i can not explain...

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Re: The greatest (or your favorite) composer of al
Reply #1 on: August 20, 2003, 04:46:38 AM
I totally agree with you

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Re: The greatest (or your favorite) composer of al
Reply #2 on: August 20, 2003, 04:47:36 AM
I really like Chopin.  I think he is my favorite.  I am also a fan on Beethoven and Mozart (who isnt ;))

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Re: The greatest (or your favorite) composer of al
Reply #3 on: August 20, 2003, 05:23:22 AM
I think everybody in this forum already knows my opinion in this matter, but I don't get tired of repeating this: for me, the greatest composer of all times was Johann Sebastian Bach.
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Re: The greatest (or your favorite) composer of al
Reply #4 on: August 20, 2003, 06:53:38 AM
CHOPIN CHOPIN CHOPIN! GO CHOPIN!
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Re: The greatest (or your favorite) composer of al
Reply #5 on: August 20, 2003, 08:56:13 AM
Rachmaninov, Prokofiev, Ravel, Bartok, Chopin and Liszt. (And Debussy, Gershwin and Shostakovich) - is that too many?
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Re: The greatest (or your favorite) composer of al
Reply #6 on: August 20, 2003, 01:05:08 PM

My favorite is Beethoven, and his piano work is so great !

but Bach, Mozart, Chopin, Ravel, Scriabin, Rachmaninof ... well, I not could live without them too !

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Re: The greatest (or your favorite) composer of al
Reply #7 on: August 20, 2003, 08:15:23 PM
Beethoven, Mozart,Brahms,Bach. Favorite : Beethoven/Mozart. Guys.. remember we are talking about the greatest composers or your favorite... Rach and Chopin are great and all.. but they are realllllllly one sided towards piano. Unlike Beethoven with his many symphonies. Mozart with his operas. Brahms with his great chamber music. and Bach.. well bach is just everything.
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Re: The greatest (or your favorite) composer of al
Reply #8 on: August 21, 2003, 01:14:47 AM
I'm with Chopinetta

CHOPIN ALL DA WAY!  And piano ownz all other instruments, therefore again Chopin is the greatest composer of all!!!!

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Re: The greatest (or your favorite) composer of al
Reply #9 on: August 21, 2003, 07:38:38 AM
Wow...  That's far too difficult to narrow down...  Right now, if I HAD to chose, I guess I'd say Chopin and Beethoven...  But I've been listening to a LOT of Rachmaninoff.  That's definetly a toughie.  And to whoever said about Mozart "Who doesn't?"  ...I don't really like much Mozart, and I've never been able to explain why.  Feel free to flame me mercilessly...
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Re: The greatest (or your favorite) composer of al
Reply #10 on: August 21, 2003, 09:04:19 AM
Mozart.. his music has that sadness that you just has to listen to a whole lot and understand him to realllly love.. i tihnk his piano concertos all include some sort of a sadness in them...his greatness comes from how simple his pieces sound yet they are sooo deep emotionally... you can say that he abuses the alberti bass but i feel that mozart rivals Beethoven as greatest composer.. but i think Beethoven is in the lead by a nudge for me... unless i run into the rest of Mozart's piano concertos... that might make me change my mind  ;D
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Offline chopinetta

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Re: The greatest (or your favorite) composer of al
Reply #11 on: August 21, 2003, 11:57:14 AM
i don't think mozart's music has those "sad" tunes... usually they're the happy in-the-carnival melodious pieces. if you say sad, try chopin's nocturne in c#-!
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Reply #12 on: August 21, 2003, 10:04:04 PM
... except he lived in poverty for the last like 5 years of his life... and his music has a sad undertone.. i mean it doesnt sound sad.. but yet it is. and yes i kno that Nocturne. i played it..
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Re: The greatest (or your favorite) composer of al
Reply #13 on: August 21, 2003, 11:51:18 PM
My favorite: Rachmaninoff
Runner Up: Scriabin
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Re: The greatest (or your favorite) composer of al
Reply #14 on: August 22, 2003, 08:57:56 AM
My favorite would have to be Beethoven.  His stuff was my introduction to classical music, and while I do enjoy music by other composers, I always find myself returning to Beethoven.

I like it all, though..

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Re: The greatest (or your favorite) composer of al
Reply #15 on: August 22, 2003, 10:25:21 AM
if you're talking about the requiem, yes, it's sad!
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Re: The greatest (or your favorite) composer of al
Reply #16 on: August 22, 2003, 06:29:11 PM
The best is is J.S. Bach, Beethoven, Mozart, Brahms.

My fav. is the before mentioned along with chopin and liszt.

I found it interesting to see that no one else mentioned liszt yet. I thought there were some big fans here.

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Re: The greatest (or your favorite) composer of al
Reply #17 on: August 23, 2003, 12:29:07 AM
Music is a place where you can vent your emotions. That's all it is. No matter what your level, you should always strive for this state of mind. This is the reason why I don't prefer Mozart or Bach, becuase they seems to have no emotion (this is only what I feel) and seem to be only technical. Rachmaninoff and Prokofiev and Chopin on the other hand have an amazing combination of technincals and emotions. But, the technicals simply supplement the emotions. You need to practice the technicals so you can freely express yourself at performances or just for yourself.

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Re: The greatest (or your favorite) composer of al
Reply #18 on: August 23, 2003, 03:26:54 AM
:o did u just say Mozart has no emotion?  :o im shocked. and Mozart is NOT technical difficulties. His piano concertos are times easier technically then the beethoven, chopin, lizst, rachs. But its the emotions in his pieces which makes them so great! Geez.... saying Mozart has no emotion... Shame!  >:(
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Re: The greatest (or your favorite) composer of al
Reply #19 on: August 23, 2003, 08:17:39 AM
I think reason why Liszt is not mentioned because many of his works are transcriptions and when people think of Romanticism they usually think of Chopin

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Re: The greatest (or your favorite) composer of al
Reply #20 on: August 23, 2003, 08:19:22 AM
btw how do you guys do that quote thing to show what some user wrote previously?

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Re: The greatest (or your favorite) composer of al
Reply #21 on: August 23, 2003, 08:34:17 AM
I also like Rachmaninoff.  One of my favorite pieces is Vocalise, the instrumental (no singing).
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Re: The greatest (or your favorite) composer of al
Reply #22 on: August 23, 2003, 01:37:27 PM
Yes. I am a fan of Chopin's friend and rival, Franz Liszt! I do think he's really great! But probably not as a composer, but the greatest pianist of all. Chopin, as a teacher, never gave any Liszt piece to his student. Maybe that's why people have not been mentioning him here.
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Re: The greatest (or your favorite) composer of al
Reply #23 on: August 23, 2003, 02:08:54 PM
Liszt is much more revolutionary than Chopin - you can see this in his use of technique (e.g. the transcendental etudes), and much of his music directly precedes impressionism (e.g. nuages gris) and atonalism (in fact his Bagatelle sans tonalite is the first atonal piece),
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Re: The greatest (or your favorite) composer of al
Reply #24 on: August 23, 2003, 02:15:52 PM
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Chopin, as a teacher, never gave any Liszt piece to his student.


That is complete nonsense-where have you heard that from? If the truth be told then we don't actually know much about Chopin's teachings nor much of his own personal taste in performance directions as unlike liszt he did not leave a legacy of piano pupils in his wake. The nature of his teaching (he taught extremely wealthy aristocratic women) meant that they were unlikely to take up the vocation of teacher themselves!
there is NO evidence to suggest that he never gave any Liszt piece to his students nor any evidence to say that he did.

I would suggest that Liszt is a huge influence as a composer and pianist who constantly strove to push the boundaries of piano playing and romanticism to the levels we appreciate today. It may also be noted that Liszt in his day was EXTREMELY influential and had the power to make or break his contemporaries. It was almost etiquette to present your piano work to him upon completion - as Grieg did with his piano concerto, which Liszt sight read upon first reading.

For a true pianist Liszt is a very important composer.

.........and this is a piano forum!

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Re: The greatest (or your favorite) composer of al
Reply #25 on: September 11, 2003, 08:20:43 AM
don't forget ,j.s.bach,the father of music and handle as well,the mother of music.we are discussing about "the greatest composer" aren't we?
anyway,beethoven is the greatest composer as for me.

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Re: The greatest (or your favorite) composer of al
Reply #26 on: September 11, 2003, 08:59:58 PM
I don't think Handel would appreciate being called the mother of music,
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Reply #27 on: September 12, 2003, 03:33:11 AM
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I don't think Handel would appreciate being called the mother of music,
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bahahahahahahahaha mother of music! ;D

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Re: The greatest (or your favorite) composer of al
Reply #28 on: September 12, 2003, 05:43:18 PM
Rachmaninov, Prokofiev, Ravel, Bartok, Chopin and Liszt. (And Debussy, Gershwin and Shostakovich) - is that too many?
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wowwwwwwwww, u named almost all of my favourites (except gershwin is not in my favourites)
i also like grieg, and schoenberg, berg  , berg is defintiely in my favourites
although debussy , ravel, rachmaninov, prokofiev , chopin and liszt are before any one esle i gues

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Re: The greatest (or your favorite) composer of al
Reply #29 on: September 12, 2003, 06:58:31 PM
What's wrong with Gershwin?
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Re: The greatest (or your favorite) composer of al
Reply #30 on: October 02, 2003, 05:25:40 PM
I'm not hugly knoleable of all works but I'm a big fan of Beethoven.
However I'm just getting to know Chopan, Liszt, and Bach a bit better as well as others.
Theres no composers that i don't like so far although I enjoy slightly less some of mozats sonata's (however I keep finding pieces which contredict that statment).
Maby I just find the romantic eira more inspiering than earlly classical. I love late berock stuff as well
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Re: The greatest (or your favorite) composer of al
Reply #31 on: October 02, 2003, 07:58:45 PM
Shas, what is your first language?
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Re: The greatest (or your favorite) composer of al
Reply #32 on: October 05, 2003, 10:14:35 PM
Schubert. Or Bach. Or Beethoven.

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Reply #33 on: October 06, 2003, 05:24:16 PM
English although I'm slightly dislexic if your refering to my spealling.
I am however fluent in french.
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Re: The greatest (or your favorite) composer of al
Reply #34 on: October 06, 2003, 08:02:24 PM
Sorry, I just noticed your interesting penchant for unorthadox spellings  :P,
Ed
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