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Offline phil13

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Schoenberg's Name
on: October 18, 2005, 03:08:32 AM
Arnold Schoenberg's music is some of the music that I can't listen to because I tend to grab a pencil and shove it in my ear. But enough about that.

Whenever someone spells Schoenberg's name wrong, I get distracted by it. It's such a strange spelling to me, and I'm not even sure I'M spelling it right, but whenever I see it, it looks weird.

Anybody else feel the same way? This does not happen with other people's names, just his.





































































This has got to be the stupidest topic I've ever written. Oh, well...

Phil
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Offline Etude

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Re: Schoenberg's Name
Reply #1 on: October 18, 2005, 03:30:08 AM
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This has got to be the stupidest topic I've ever written. Oh, well...

It's contagious isn't it. 
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Offline phil13

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Re: Schoenberg's Name
Reply #2 on: October 18, 2005, 03:38:36 AM
Quote from: Etude on October 18, 2005, 03:30:08 AM
It's contagious isn't it. 

Yes, yes it is.

Phil
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Offline shoenberg3

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Re: Schoenberg's Name
Reply #3 on: October 18, 2005, 06:37:01 AM
Did someone just call my name?
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Offline Tash

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Re: Schoenberg's Name
Reply #4 on: October 18, 2005, 08:02:17 AM
that's probably because the normal way of spelling it would be schonberg with the little dots over the o. but then again even that looks kind of wrong. but then again all german words look wrong- d*mn european languages for never being pronounced the way they look! we once invented aussie french- say it like it's written on the page with a great traditional aussie accent, it's the way to go:)
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Offline mrchops10

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Re: Schoenberg's Name
Reply #5 on: October 18, 2005, 09:00:35 AM
actually though schoenberg is often spelt like that in Germany, with no umlaut (the little dots), because he lived for so long in America and he always spelt it oe, and that's probably with it looks weird. Goethe is also the proper spelling, not o umlaut, which is a funny mistake many over-educated Americans make. Karl Boehm, however, looks kinda weird.
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Re: Schoenberg's Name
Reply #6 on: October 18, 2005, 10:16:20 AM
His name is Schönberg. Only in english it is Schoenberg, all other languages use an 'o' with umlaud, making the 'o' more 'oe'-like. When Schoenberg moved to the US after the Nazi's came into power he made an englishified version of his name and used that in the US. A bit like Rachmaninoff instead of Рахманинов.

Maybe he wanted to get rid of his german name. Many jews that fleed germany changed their german names to non-german ones. For example Krystian Zimerman, his name was originally zimmermann (I am not really sure about this one). Many people with a name ending on 'mann' changed it into 'man'.
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