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Topic: Does This Happen To Anyone Else?  (Read 1597 times)

Offline fuel925

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Does This Happen To Anyone Else?
on: October 26, 2005, 11:56:44 AM
I find that with certain pieces, even if I can play it in time, all the right notes, and rubato etc where necessary, it never sounds satisfactory to me. Take Chopin's Waltz in A Minor (post humous). When I play this piece it always sounds muddy and messy to me, its quite annoying :(

Offline debussy symbolism

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Re: Does This Happen To Anyone Else?
Reply #1 on: October 26, 2005, 07:11:27 PM
Greetings.

More practice. If something sounds not right then something is wrong. Perhaps more articulation?






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Offline gorbee natcase

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Re: Does This Happen To Anyone Else?
Reply #2 on: October 26, 2005, 09:47:46 PM
Some may disagree with this but are you happy with your piano.
Some pianos sound awful with certain music, but I don't think thats what your asking is it
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Offline kghayesh

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Re: Does This Happen To Anyone Else?
Reply #3 on: October 26, 2005, 11:27:07 PM
My advice would be to listen to recordings that you think are good and try to imitate them, or in other words, produce the same mood or effect.

Offline alzado

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Re: Does This Happen To Anyone Else?
Reply #4 on: October 26, 2005, 11:38:51 PM
If it sounds muddy, you are probably overusing the sustain pedal.

Offline Bob

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Re: Does This Happen To Anyone Else?
Reply #5 on: October 27, 2005, 12:53:47 AM
Balance and voicing?
Favorite new teacher quote -- "You found the only possible wrong answer."

Offline quantum

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Re: Does This Happen To Anyone Else?
Reply #6 on: October 27, 2005, 01:29:24 AM
Maybe try listening to your performance with the perspective of a listner not a performer.  In other words, record yourself playing and listen to that.  Do you hear the same thing on the recording as when you are performing?

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Offline sonatainfsharp

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Re: Does This Happen To Anyone Else?
Reply #7 on: October 27, 2005, 08:06:00 PM
Could be the piano.

I had a masterclass lesson the other day and the prof. said I was banging. I moved to another piano to play the same thing and he said, "never mind; it was just the piano."
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