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Topic: Wohltemperiertes Klavier, help and free opinions  (Read 2595 times)

Offline CSC

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Wohltemperiertes Klavier, help and free opinions
on: September 04, 2003, 12:03:40 PM
Dear friends; I found an edition of Bachs WTC with fingering, tempo etc by Carl Czerny. Ive just begun and so far it seems satisfactory.
Do you have any opinions about these or other interpretations?
Tempo is, as always I guess, much a matter of individual feel and thought, but do you think these tempos put out by Czerny helps to find the core, make the most of each of these fullfilled masterpieces?
Other suggestions?
I need fingering, but should I follow it rigorously?

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C Cook in Sweden
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Re: Wohltemperiertes Klavier, help and free opinio
Reply #1 on: September 04, 2003, 04:23:41 PM
If he put tempo on the WTC like he did on the inventions and sinfonias then they are all faster than what anyone plays them. I know that many people look at his editions though.

boliver

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Re: Wohltemperiertes Klavier, help and free opinio
Reply #2 on: September 04, 2003, 05:12:49 PM
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Dear friends; I found an edition of Bachs WTC with fingering, tempo etc by Carl Czerny. Ive just begun and so far it seems satisfactory.
Do you have any opinions about these or other interpretations?
Tempo is, as always I guess, much a matter of individual feel and thought, but do you think these tempos put out by Czerny helps to find the core, make the most of each of these fullfilled masterpieces?
Other suggestions?
I need fingering, but should I follow it rigorously?

All lovely things in the world /
C Cook in Sweden
(Im in Berlin Sept)



I don't know anyone now who uses the Czerny edition  anymore. The better editions are Henle Urtext, Peters edited by Kroll, some people like the ABRSM Tovey edition.

Keep in mind that Czerny played and wrote in the Classical style, and Bach is a Baroque composer, so the tempos, ornaments, and even some of the fingerings are not stylistically correct.
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Re: Wohltemperiertes Klavier, help and free opinio
Reply #3 on: December 20, 2003, 05:13:26 PM
I recently bought the Wiener Urtext editions. For me at least the fingerings in this edition are much better than any of the others I've used over the year.

Fingerings are always a personal thing and it may be that the editor has similar hands to me though!

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Re: Wohltemperiertes Klavier, help and free opinio
Reply #4 on: December 20, 2003, 10:28:41 PM
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Dear friends; I found an edition of Bachs WTC with fingering, tempo etc by Carl Czerny. Ive just begun and so far it seems satisfactory.
Do you have any opinions about these or other interpretations?
Tempo is, as always I guess, much a matter of individual feel and thought, but do you think these tempos put out by Czerny helps to find the core, make the most of each of these fullfilled masterpieces?
Other suggestions?
I need fingering, but should I follow it rigorously?

All lovely things in the world /
C Cook in Sweden
(Im in Berlin Sept)


I have that Czerny edition too, actually I have 5 different editions of WTC , I must say that my favourite is Henle-Urtext. As Bolliver Allmon said, tempos are very fast (especially for 2 and 3 parts inventions) , just ignore Czerny's tempos and choose your own tempo I believe it's gonna be better.

Good luck

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Re: Wohltemperiertes Klavier, help and free opinio
Reply #5 on: December 21, 2003, 07:16:19 AM
More people should play the Shostakovich prelude and fugues,
Ed

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Re: Wohltemperiertes Klavier, help and free opinio
Reply #6 on: March 11, 2004, 05:50:51 PM
HEY SUPERSENIOR-ED!!
Hello guys, its me again, who was wondering about the czerny fingering, who brought it up. I just want to point out my gratitude towards Bach, I mean, Yes, well I myself am becoming a composer, to speak of my truest needs, urges and work, and I mostly dwell around the bells or chords of frigging life and light of what they call impressionism, but that crazy fiddling nightmare of a 20th century still never managed to break him the old man, Its true, from my point of view anyway. (hey! is this math?) How do you like Bartoks 4th string quartet? I love that sh*t, man. prdn le francais

Shostakovich is but lovely and I fully agree on that he should be played more, but I feel blessed, finally, I have come to understand Bach again, after all these boring years (I mean what am I a poor pheasant? Im still only 22 til 20th May) just as when as I was seven (dinnnng!) . Thank you, everyone.
Y! Ymn! Y!
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