who plays the fastest 10/1

[jamie_liszt]

Hey

What is the fastest recording of the chopin etude op 10 no. 1 you have heard, i reckon cziffra plays it quite fast in the Warm up improv video, but i havnt got many fast recordings of this piece!

If you have got a really fast recording of this piece i would love to hear it

[rimv2]

https://www.acidplanet.com/artist.asp?songs=405406&T=4245

This is the most hilarious attempt ahve eva heard

Vive le Robo

Vive

[bearzinthehood]

My ears hurt.

[steinwaymodeld]

my friend nathan did a 1'21 perf once,  i captured it on vid and posted it in some other forum before

As for commercial Dino Ciani did a 1'34 performance live, pretty much the fastest (argerich is like 1'45 or something)

Cziffra's BBC recital improvisation with 10/1 is never complete, but if it is, it should be faster than Argerich.

A polish contestant in CHopin competition played a 1'31 performance, and i have just saw that yesterday.

[steinwaymodeld]

haha
i believe imrobot have found the long-lost Sorabji transcription of the Chopin etude, look forward for the recording of the transcription of the other 23 etude.

[jamie_liszt]

wow, 1'21 that would be inzane  u got da vid ? upload if you do!

yeah to bad ziff doesnt play the start, and i havnt heard Argerich play, i will listen later!

[zheer]

Are you guys serious, so far you have mentioned snail pace. I might be wrong but alfred cortot plays it around 176 crotchet beats per minut. I am definetly not a great piano virtuoso, but at the moment a can play various passages at around 180 crotchet beats per minut. Am looking to stick it on cruise control and play 10/1 Etude at 176 crotchet beats per minut eventually.

[steinwaymodeld]

Are you guys serious, so far you have mentioned snail pace. I might be wrong but alfred cortot plays it around 176 crotchet beats per minut. I am definetly not a great piano virtuoso, but at the moment a can play various passages at around 180 crotchet beats per minut. Am looking to stick it on cruise control and play 10/1 Etude at 176 crotchet beats per minut eventually.

cortot rec's is more than 1'50. WIth all the respect(and he is one of my favorite), speed is not what i look for in his recording.

[tompilk]

This doesnt sound nice at all... sorry 

[stevie]

This doesnt sound nice at all... sorry 

mildly?

[Kassaa]

This doesnt sound nice at all... sorry

I love it, it's like Madge's OC.

[zheer]

I love it, it's like Madge's OC.

What does that mean?

[paris]

this whole thread is ridiculous

[stevie]

this whole thread is ridiculous

because you cant play it fast enough?

[paris]

because you cant play it fast enough?

unfortunately stevie, you obviously missed the point of my sentence.

or you just love provocing...

[stevie]

actually, i own the world record for the fastest 25/12

does that get you horny?

[paris]

actually, i own the world record for the fastest 25/12

does that get you horny?

stevie, stevie, world record for the fastest...*cough* ...something has been said in previos threads about minute waltz...

[chromatickler]

actually, i own the world record for the fastest 25/12

just like Madge owns the world record for the fastest OC.

[tompilk]

The OC sounds better... godly... but this sounds just like a rushed 10/1, which it is...

[rimv2]

Are you guys serious, so far you have mentioned snail pace. I might be wrong but alfred cortot plays it around 176 crotchet beats per minut.

You might be

I am definetly not a great piano virtuoso, but at the moment a can play various passages at around 180 crotchet beats per minut.

Yes ah played the first arp at 180 my first attempt too

Am looking to stick it on cruise control and play 10/1 Etude at 176 crotchet beats per minut eventually.

that would land you at about argerich's time, cziffra hits around 1'36 (ah had the rec once)

most pianist start at or above 176 then gradually sl*w down or speed up

[zheer]

You might be

 cziffra hits around 1'36 (ah had the rec once)

I have to say but dont let paris find out , but thats a fairly good tempo.

[jamie_liszt]

i downloaded the argerich chopin competition recording, pretty fast, 1'54

i got yundi li playing it , he plays it  in  2'01

im still trying to picture da speed of 1'21 

[paris]

I have to say but dont let paris find out , but thats a fairly good tempo.

why don't let me find out?!  so what, if i can't play it in 1.36, that doesn't mean i don't like it fast. what i'm trying to say whole time (but some people are obviously too much obssessed with speed) is that in my case i'm rather playing it slower for now, but clear. i can play it in real speed but with wrong notes which is very iritating. i don't want to get used to wrong notes and then having problems with relearning it because of that heh

personally i like martha argerich the most and she does play it fast and beautiful. ashkenazy recording is one of very good ones too, and from those less-known pianists i'd say yu kosuge. she recorded both opuses and although i don't like some etudes, her 10/1 and ocean etude rock (and they're faaaast just for the record you speed maniacs)

[jamie_liszt]

Paris i think u play da piece really well you will gain speed as you play it more... yes i agree you should play it slow to get it right, i too cannot play it at 176 without hitting wrong notes, i just keep it to 108 - 132 when practising.

This piece sounds good played fast or slow, i was just curious who plays it faster and if anyone had videos or audio's of it, just a stupid thread, i would still like to see that 1'21 video lol

PS: Never meant to start fights with this thread..

[paris]

Paris i think u play da piece really well you will gain speed as you play it more... yes i agree you should play it slow to get it right, i too cannot play it at 176 without hitting wrong notes, i just keep it to 108 - 132 when practising.

This piece sounds good played fast or slow, i was just curious who plays it faster and if anyone had videos or audio's of it, just a stupid thread, i would still like to see that 1'21 video lol

PS: Never meant to start fights with this thread..

you didn't start fights don't worry.  i just don't want people mentioning all the time needlessly how slow i play it...jeez chill out dudes

and i admit i'm curious to see that video too...

[zheer]

why don't let me find out?! 

 Haw did you find out who told you.

 Am only kidding,

[zheer]

i downloaded the argerich chopin competition recording, pretty fast, 1'54

i got yundi li playing it , he plays it  in  2'01

im still trying to picture da speed of 1'21 

Do you guys mean minuts, or crotchet beats per minut.

   If you are saying that yndi li plays it at 201 crochet beats per minut, then i have one word to say B***X.

[pseudopianist]

Do you guys mean minuts, or crotchet beats per minut.
 

On another note:


   If you are saying that yndi li plays it at 201 crochet beats per minut, then i have one word to say B***X.

Minutes, quite sure of that one.

Why does every thread that discusses technique or speed have to attacked by IKNOWWHATMUSICISNITSSL*W-posters? "It isn't about speed...." / "It doesn't sound as good when played that fast" and of course "Speed = 0 musicallity"

YOU ARE MISSING THE POINT WITH THIS THREAD.


mildly true 

[zheer]

Minutes, quite sure of that one.

 "Speed = 0 musicallity"

   That is false , Think of this Etude as a painting, if you stand to close you will not see the full picture, for example if you magnify a painting you will see dots and strokes. Hence if this Etude is playd slowly you will see the dots and strokes and not what it actually is, the style demands a cetin tempo, because of its repetative nature.

[pseudopianist]

   That is false , Think of this Etude as a painting, if you stand to close you will not see the full picture, for example if you magnify a painting you will see dots and strokes. Hence if this Etude is playd slowly you will see the dots and strokes and not what it actually is, the style demands a cetin tempo, because of its repetative nature.

hahahahaha what?!

speed is musicallity.

[etudes]

why don't let me find out?!  so what, if i can't play it in 1.36, that doesn't mean i don't like it fast. what i'm trying to say whole time (but some people are obviously too much obssessed with speed) is that in my case i'm rather playing it slower for now, but clear. i can play it in real speed but with wrong notes which is very iritating. i don't want to get used to wrong notes and then having problems with relearning it because of that heh

personally i like martha argerich the most and she does play it fast and beautiful. ashkenazy recording is one of very good ones too, and from those less-known pianists i'd say yu kosuge. she recorded both opuses and although i don't like some etudes, her 10/1 and ocean etude rock (and they're faaaast just for the record you speed maniacs)

Yu is crazy
i heard her concert once!!!!! Awesome technique!!!!

[brahmsian]

im still trying to picture da speed of 1'21

I recently acquired that vid.....

I can post it if you are so inclined

[chromatickler]

Do you guys mean minuts, or crotchet beats per minut.

   If you are saying that yndi li plays it at 201 crochet beats per minut, then i have one word to say B***X.

that's right. and 1'21 equals to about 240 bpm. get ur head around it.

[jamie_liszt]

So much anger in this thread lol

and yeh go ahead post da vid

[tompilk]

https://rapidshare.de/files/8969503/Chopin_Etude_10-1_for_da_sdc.avi.html
Try this... 

[jamie_liszt]

is dat da nathan vid 1'20'' coz i got dat now, its fast.

[tompilk]

yeah its the nathan one

[Dazzer]

crazy.

[nicolaievich]

https://www.acidplanet.com/artist.asp?songs=405406&T=4245

This is the most hilarious attempt ahve eva heard

It sounds like Prokofiev...

[mwarner1]

https://rapidshare.de/files/8969503/Chopin_Etude_10-1_for_da_sdc.avi.html
Try this... 

I can't get the download to work... do I need to register with a Premium membership? And is that German?

[jamie_liszt]

you scroll down and click free membership then scroll down again and type in the code it tells you to, hit start download, try using internet explorer for your browser if your already not.

[e60m5]

stevie, stevie, world record for the fastest...*cough* ...something has been said in previos threads about minute waltz...

HAHA BURNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!   

Paris - 1. stevie - 0.

[stevie]

HAHA BURNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!   

Paris - 1. stevie - 0.

that reply was a bit.....

[pita bread]

Hahahaha

[zheer]

that reply was a bit.....

  O i get it ,the reply was slippery, good one .

[practicingnow]

I think the fastest that I heard was Anievas
Watts is extremely fast too

[arensky]

I think the fastest that I heard was Anievas

Not just fast but full with a big singing tone that is never harsh; a miracle of piano playing!
 

[I Love Xenakis]

Your mom is a miracle of piano playing.

[arensky]

Your mom is a miracle of piano playing.

Cryptic, eh?

[JCarey]

Er... why hasn't this thread been deleted yet?