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Offline fs7600

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How many of you CAN REALLY Sing???
on: November 28, 2005, 01:01:16 AM
I was wondering, how many of you can really sing.

If so, prove it by uploading your song here, https://studioboards.com/music.php where everyone will be able to rate and comment on it.

I do know there is some great singers on this board. I can feel it.


I think Im a decent singer. but not anything compared to some people.

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Re: How many of you CAN REALLY Sing???
Reply #1 on: November 28, 2005, 02:54:49 AM
I'm not a vocalist and don't really consider myself a singer, but I do use voice as a tool and a basic part of musicianship.
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Re: How many of you CAN REALLY Sing???
Reply #2 on: November 28, 2005, 07:15:27 PM
Yes, singing a line really helps for playing cantabile, or playing the line right. When no one's at home I sing some parts of the pieces I play.

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Re: How many of you CAN REALLY Sing???
Reply #3 on: November 28, 2005, 07:35:06 PM
i sing when other people are singing.  my husband has a really nice voice - so whenever i sing with him, i sound really good.  but, if he stops singing and i keep on - it doesn't sound so good anymore.  (does this make sense?)  maybe i sing louder when he's around.

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Re: How many of you CAN REALLY Sing???
Reply #4 on: November 28, 2005, 09:11:25 PM
I sound like a cross between  Louis Armstrong and Lemmy from Motorhead.
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Re: How many of you CAN REALLY Sing???
Reply #5 on: November 28, 2005, 10:41:05 PM
I can sing perfectly in tune.... HOWEVER.... I have a terrible singing voice, pus the fact that my scottish accent really buggers things up....

I don't care, as long as I can play piano, I'm fine.

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Re: How many of you CAN REALLY Sing???
Reply #6 on: November 28, 2005, 10:56:37 PM
i sound much better when i'm not singing:)

i discovered back when i was 10 and auditioning for the school musical joseph and his technicoloured coat that i really did suck, and have suffered from a phobia of singing ever since. and then i had to do sightsinging in front of the class and join the choir at uni. so i still suck quite badly, but at least in choir the only person who can hear me is the person in front of me and it's easier to stay in tune.

i don't understand people who think they can sing when they obviously can't. like watching idol or something and there's all those people who've never had a singing lesson in their life and think they actually have the greatest potential to become a professional singer- how do you get that impression??!! i find it quite offensive, that people think it takes such little effort to be really good at something, like they don't even have any kind of understanding of how music works, the role of rhythm and harmony, and most importantly being IN TUNE!!
agh it's a pet hate of mine! and people who can't sing who start randomly singing to themselves on buses and in art classes- like hello we can hear you and it's hell annoying.

i'll shut up now...
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Re: How many of you CAN REALLY Sing???
Reply #7 on: November 29, 2005, 01:24:20 AM
I have had many students who sing with a radio or recording.  They think they sound like the recording -- That's why they think they sound great. 

They probably always sing with the recording.  They don't have the ability to sing it on their own or match pitch.  Matching pitch is a difficult skill for a lot of people I've found (I'm lucky I guess). 

And they feel the music while they sing like that.

Whoa to the person who makes them sing without that recording! :)  How angry and upset those people get.  How insulted they will get.  How devasted they can get when you lead them into this situation where they realize they can't do it.  That is something I have learned.

I do think voice is a basic part of musicianship.  A musician should be able to sing something -- match pitch, sing a melody, sing the lines of the pieces they play, sing chords, sight-sing...    something along those lines.
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Re: How many of you CAN REALLY Sing???
Reply #8 on: November 29, 2005, 10:50:33 PM
actually that does remind me how many issues i had when we had to do prepared sightsinging and play the other part on the piano- i couldn't believe how hard it was so stay in tune cos i kept getting distracted by what i was playing on the piano! and yeah just trying to sing when you don't have something else playing the melody with you it baffled me, but it makes sense- greatly heightened my appreciation for singers if anything
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Re: How many of you CAN REALLY Sing???
Reply #9 on: November 30, 2005, 09:39:05 AM
I can sing well if I do say so myself. It's taken me a while, but my range has greatly improved (up to about an Ab above middle C in chest voice) and I have a nice vibrato. I really want to do a musical (yes, I know, I'm gay) AND start a band in which I sing and play piano.

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Re: How many of you CAN REALLY Sing???
Reply #10 on: December 02, 2005, 12:37:07 AM
I can sing, but I don't want to post myself and get rated and commented on, as asked for in the original post.  But I'm sure you're right--there are probably quite a few very fine singers around here. 

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Re: How many of you CAN REALLY Sing???
Reply #11 on: December 04, 2005, 12:56:07 AM
I can sing...


Yes, folks, it's true.  She really can  ;)



And so can I... if you would like to hear me, down below this sentence, I will post myself singing.  Please listen closely (100 cookies for the person who guesses the aria) :






la la la la-di-daaa di daaa... la la di da di daaaa....

la la la la-di-daaaa di daa.... la di da diiii-uum.


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Re: How many of you CAN REALLY Sing???
Reply #12 on: December 04, 2005, 04:04:23 PM
or i could just put this link

https://www.pianostreet.com/smf/index.php/topic,13581.0.html

though good luck if you're in singapore.


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Re: How many of you CAN REALLY Sing???
Reply #14 on: December 04, 2005, 07:09:15 PM
I sing for fun.

I can sing the notes in my range no problem. I also have a fine ear. But the sound of my voice probably isn't very good. I also have problems singing while pronouncing words. That may sound strange but if I am merely hitting notes I am doing much better. I also have no real singing skill, no finesse, no ability to add nice colour or nuances. To compensate, I do have an ok vibrato. I realise the difference between singing alone, singing with a backing track and singing along. It is not just that you don't listen to yourself, it is actually easier to sing along, of course.

With some practice I would probably sing a simple tune and not look bad.
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Re: How many of you CAN REALLY Sing???
Reply #15 on: December 04, 2005, 11:33:05 PM
i don't understand people who think they can sing when they obviously can't. like watching idol or something and there's all those people who've never had a singing lesson in their life and think they actually have the greatest potential to become a professional singer- how do you get that impression??!! i find it quite offensive, that people think it takes such little effort to be really good at something, like they don't even have any kind of understanding of how music works, the role of rhythm and harmony, and most importantly being IN TUNE!!
agh it's a pet hate of mine! and people who can't sing who start randomly singing to themselves on buses and in art classes- like hello we can hear you and it's hell annoying.

heh heh, agreed. I've never watched any of those idol shows, loathed 'em from the first I heard of the concept. It doesn't affect me at all, but it does bother me that some people get the idea that's what music is about - becoming a star, striking it rich and leading the good life. It's true, TV does warp peoples minds.

I don't get so much people singing out of tune, 'cept karoke which is hilarious drunken fun. What I get are people who whistle out of tune. The people who KNOW they can't sing so they figure they can get away with whistling. Ach, they'll all burn in hell, I'm sure of it.

I like to sing a lot in my car, from time to time without the recordings too see if I actually can do it ;D. Well I suppose playing music has given me a good ear, I think I do a decent job of keeping in tune, have heard a compliment or two. I really like the feel of the sound resonating through my body, those low notes that make the chair rumble. But no, I'm not a singer. Just for fun.

...Now to air a GRIEVANCE. Operatic singing. I try and try, I'll listen to it when it comes on the radio, to see if I will one day 'get it'. Nope, I still can't stand 90% of the stuff. I can't stand when they do vocal acrobatics, wailing all over the place, it's probably very impressive and difficult but it sounds like crap to me. Or when a singer decides she must put vibrato on EVERY SINGLE NOTE, especially runs of short notes, or a very WIDE vibrato, makes a mess of things, sounds incompetent to me.

On the flipside, I really love a pure smooth flowing vocal melody, with great resonance and not too much vibrato - just sprinkled from time to time for effect. What Bach cantatas I've heard usually feature good singing. I could listen to the soprano weave her line for hours.

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Re: How many of you CAN REALLY Sing???
Reply #16 on: December 07, 2005, 10:00:23 PM
About the vibrato complaint, the (romantic) operatic sound isn't to everyone's taste, and I understand that.  But a helpful thing to know is that natural vibrato is the body's protective response to vocal extremity.  Classical singing, especially opera, is incredibly demanding on the voice.  We learn to use the mechanism to its greatest capacity in terms of volume, range, and length of phrase.  If we force the voice to do all that without allowing a natural vibrancy, we'll destroy it.  The vibrato isn't really something they add.  When you don't hear it, they're holding it back--either intentionally, to make a certain color/character of sound, or unintentionally, because the voice is temporarily "stuck" or too tense.  Bigger voices need this movement more than smaller ones, so if you're listening to late romantic opera with huge orchestration, the roles have to be sing by very big voices, and thus you hear the most vibrato.  A super-wide vibrato can be a sign of fatigue or some vocal problem caused by singing under too much pressure for too long.  Interestingly, some women develop a big wobble in later years precisely because they forced the tone to straighten too much when they were younger.  If you think you might be interested in opera as a genre but don't like that big "out-there" singing, you might enjoy a really good performance of Monteverdi.  The singers who specialize in Monteverdi also perform a lot of Bach, so it would probably be the sound that you enjoy, and the music's fabulous.   
   

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Re: How many of you CAN REALLY Sing???
Reply #17 on: December 08, 2005, 07:41:24 AM
About the vibrato complaint, the (romantic) operatic sound isn't to everyone's taste, and I understand that.  But a helpful thing to know is that natural vibrato is the body's protective response to vocal extremity.  Classical singing, especially opera, is incredibly demanding on the voice.  We learn to use the mechanism to its greatest capacity in terms of volume, range, and length of phrase.  If we force the voice to do all that without allowing a natural vibrancy, we'll destroy it.  The vibrato isn't really something they add.  When you don't hear it, they're holding it back--either intentionally, to make a certain color/character of sound, or unintentionally, because the voice is temporarily "stuck" or too tense.  Bigger voices need this movement more than smaller ones, so if you're listening to late romantic opera with huge orchestration, the roles have to be sing by very big voices, and thus you hear the most vibrato.  A super-wide vibrato can be a sign of fatigue or some vocal problem caused by singing under too much pressure for too long.  Interestingly, some women develop a big wobble in later years precisely because they forced the tone to straighten too much when they were younger.  If you think you might be interested in opera as a genre but don't like that big "out-there" singing, you might enjoy a really good performance of Monteverdi.  The singers who specialize in Monteverdi also perform a lot of Bach, so it would probably be the sound that you enjoy, and the music's fabulous.   

Hey, thanks for the info Whynot! I had no idea about vibrato as a natural response, and how it would be a result of the demands of the music. I thought they were just being jerks ;D

I'll definitely check out that Monteverdi, and explore the topic a little more for myself. Maybe one day I will develop a taste for that style.

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Re: How many of you CAN REALLY Sing???
Reply #18 on: December 08, 2005, 08:26:54 AM
A new legislation has been past to stop people like me singing in privat or in public.
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Re: How many of you CAN REALLY Sing???
Reply #19 on: December 10, 2005, 07:21:40 AM
No!  I bet it isn't that bad.

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Re: How many of you CAN REALLY Sing???
Reply #20 on: December 11, 2005, 07:16:12 PM
Id like to know what people think of my voice - pleas be as brutal and honest as possible

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Re: How many of you CAN REALLY Sing???
Reply #21 on: December 14, 2005, 07:03:52 AM
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Re: How many of you CAN REALLY Sing???
Reply #22 on: May 17, 2006, 07:08:48 PM
I'm actually a professional singer in addition to being a pianist.  However, the recordings I have are copyrighted since the group I sing with is a pro group.  There's another CD that's coming out with another group (vocal jazz) of mine that I may be able to post something from when it comes out.
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Re: How many of you CAN REALLY Sing???
Reply #23 on: May 17, 2006, 07:37:45 PM
i started singing at 6, and became a proffesional chorister at 8, singing in films, operas and toured in Paris, Rome and Washington D.C. i am now a baritone and i recently sang at the Royal National Theatre for 47 performances of "Coram Boy". i will upload stuff when i have time, i have important exams to work for.

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Re: How many of you CAN REALLY Sing???
Reply #24 on: May 17, 2006, 10:37:53 PM
i think i'm gonna get singing lessons soon. it's just no fun when you can't sing. and i have to sing a song, and play a guitar at the same time which is worth 30% of my guitar class mark. so just shoot me, thank god the lecturer can't sing either so it won't be so bad but he's a prick so i had to eliminate like every song that had anything to do with love cos that would be random, singing about how much you love blah to your lecturer hahaha
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Re: How many of you CAN REALLY Sing???
Reply #25 on: May 18, 2006, 02:39:07 PM
i think i'm gonna get singing lessons soon. it's just no fun when you can't sing. and i have to sing a song, and play a guitar at the same time which is worth 30% of my guitar class mark. so just shoot me, thank god the lecturer can't sing either so it won't be so bad but he's a prick so i had to eliminate like every song that had anything to do with love cos that would be random, singing about how much you love blah to your lecturer hahaha

that's good that you want to sing, just be prepared for extreme technical difficulties. I, personally, think that singing technique is more difficult to acquire than the piano, and only another singer + pianist could argue against me about it.

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Re: How many of you CAN REALLY Sing???
Reply #26 on: May 19, 2006, 05:54:48 AM
oh yeah my respect for the voice has shot up since joining the uni choir, like trying to get a decent tone, extending your range, and just articulating the words and breathing properly my god! and now i wanna know how to do these things properly, i had a breakthrough in getting a less airy tone, but then forgot what i did...haha it shall be an interesting journey when i start!
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Reply #27 on: May 19, 2006, 04:11:19 PM
oh yeah my respect for the voice has shot up since joining the uni choir, like trying to get a decent tone, extending your range, and just articulating the words and breathing properly my god! and now i wanna know how to do these things properly, i had a breakthrough in getting a less airy tone, but then forgot what i did...haha it shall be an interesting journey when i start!

the journey taken through singing is a very bumpy ride. you will have your breakthroughs and feel great, then you will feel like *** sometimes. much perseverence is required. singing practice is a lot more agrivating than piano practice, and privacy is needed (as in an empty house).

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Reply #28 on: May 19, 2006, 06:47:45 PM
I think I can say without a shadow of a doubt that I am the worst singer on this forum. Maybe in the world...

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Reply #29 on: May 21, 2006, 12:16:41 AM
the journey taken through singing is a very bumpy ride. you will have your breakthroughs and feel great, then you will feel like *** sometimes. much perseverence is required. singing practice is a lot more agrivating than piano practice, and privacy is needed (as in an empty house).

oh yes, the first thing i will be doing is kicking both my parents out of the house for a period of time every day cos there is no way in hell i'm practicing whilst they're here!
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Re: How many of you CAN REALLY Sing???
Reply #30 on: May 21, 2006, 06:54:05 PM
Well, I have been taking classical singing lessons for almost a year now, I am a soprano as it seems, since I am definitely not a mezzo and I am too high for an alto.
Practicing singing at home is very tricky, my grandparents especially go crazy  :P
It's quite difficult and I have very long way to go, but I realy like it.

And I agree, it's not easy to practice around other people, with an instrument it's different..
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Reply #31 on: May 21, 2006, 08:52:44 PM
Tash, just remember to drink more water every day than you currently do...  You've seen singers walking around with their HUGE water bottles?  It's not because they just love the taste of water, but hydrated vocal chords will create a better tone and protect you from injury better. 

Sometimes I'll have a gig later in the day, and my voice just feels and sounds like crap all day before then.  I'll drink about 16-20oz. every hour and it's like a miracle the way the voice recovers! :)

Oh, and don't get sick either.  Keep the Airborne tablets handy! ;D ;)
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Reply #32 on: May 22, 2006, 08:29:45 AM
mmm water. can totally relate to that, was at home practicing the kids song i was gonna teach my uni class, and that totally dehydrated me easily so was off skulling water!! hehe. i drink quite a bit of water anyway, specially on choir days. and no i dont get sick, that's what i keep telling myself anyway- NO i will not get sick this year at all!!
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Re: How many of you CAN REALLY Sing???
Reply #33 on: November 01, 2006, 10:40:26 AM
I was wondering, how many of you can really sing.

If so, prove it by uploading your song here, https://studioboards.com/music.php where everyone will be able to rate and comment on it.

I do know there is some great singers on this board. I can feel it.


I think Im a decent singer. but not anything compared to some people.

Nope, not me.
I do not fancy singing at all.
Neither have I got the knack of doing so.
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