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Offline contrapunctus

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My name is Brahms, Johannes Brahms. (yay!)
on: November 29, 2005, 03:54:27 AM
Uh, lets see here, I have this book published by Edition Peters that says KlavierWerke 2 on the front with the name "Brahms" in big bold letters on the front. When I look at the Inhalt page for Band 2, I see many peices mainly Intermezzos and capricios listed under the Op. numbers 76, 79, 116, 117, 118, 119 and some etudes after that. I was looking through, finally got to anything good at op, 117 which is perdy good. 118/2 I decided was the best short classical-roimantic peice ever written. Unfortunately the other assortments of notes in the book did not seem to good to me--full of chords loaded with accidentals and short little runs. Overall I was not satisfied, maybe this "Brahms" character was not as good as I though, He wrote some good stuff but the rest tasted like molasses (not to good). Also there were these five difficult looking "studien" type etude things which looked to be after certain composers. I was wondering ift hey had been recorded by a decent piano player dude because the last one (a chaconne after J. S. Bach) was for only the left hand and looked harder than the Chopin frenchie Revolutionary etude.

Well anyways, any comments from youse guys would be greatly appreciated. I would like to know the numbers of any good ones I might have missed. And if I should use those green paper things to buy "Band 1" of the works of Brahms. (seriously are the sonatas any good?).

Thank you.

Now I must return to Harry Potter and the Half Blood Prince which has been calling my name all day.

dude Hermione's so hoooooooooooooooooooottttttttttt.















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Re: My name is Brahms, Johannes Brahms. (yay!)
Reply #1 on: November 29, 2005, 12:00:17 PM
As to your inquiries.......yes she is hot.........but how you get that from the book i shall not know
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Re: My name is Brahms, Johannes Brahms. (yay!)
Reply #2 on: November 29, 2005, 05:06:44 PM
As to your inquiries.......yes she is hot.........but how you get that from the book i shall not know

No.. Hermione is not hot. Hermione is a little know it all. Ginny is hot.
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Re: My name is Brahms, Johannes Brahms. (yay!)
Reply #3 on: November 29, 2005, 06:00:16 PM
No.. Hermione is not hot. Hermione is a little know it all. Ginny is hot.
No, the movie Ginny is scary :/ Hermione is cute though <3

Btw, Snape kills Dumbledore with the avada kadavra, Snape is the half blood prince.

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Re: My name is Brahms, Johannes Brahms. (yay!)
Reply #4 on: November 29, 2005, 06:34:03 PM
Leon Fleischer is the master of left-hand pieces.  Just as his career was really taking off, he got a crippling injury to his right hand, which it has taken him the better part of 30 years to recover from.  In the meantime, he played all the left-hand pieces he could find.  Here's the Brahms, along with other left-hand pieces, on a Sony recording:

https://www.towerrecords.com/product.aspx?pfid=1085399

Brahms is not to everyone's taste.  You have found the gem of the late piano pieces (Op. 118, No. 2), but I think you may be dismissing the rest of these short pieces too quickly.  Come back to them later, perhaps, and see if you feel the same.

I like the Brahms sonatas.  They are products of his youth (all composed between the ages of 18 and 20).  They are among his least conventional works, composed before he had learned how to put movements together that shared common elements, so they are more episodic in nature.  If you come to them with Beethoven as a frame of reference, you won't like them.  (In terms of the sonata form, Beethoven is a world apart from all others, IMO, and so beyond comparison with others.)  They need to be heard, IMO, with fresh ears and with the knowledge that they are the ardent outpourings of a genius in his youth.   Imagine you were Schumann and this 18-year-old knocks on the door one day, sits down at your piano, and starts playing the first sonata (which I believe was published second).  Schumann was blown away.  For me it's easy to see why.   8)

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Reply #5 on: November 30, 2005, 04:28:18 PM
  Buy the sonatas just for number three.  The F minor isn't such an immature work.  It is very 'bitty', but for really clever and satisfying architectural reasons.  The Second movement is to die for.  The whole work is really well constructed, and if you can manage the impossible for six bars near the end of the last movement, it is a ripper of a concert work.  Listen to Michelangeli or Perriah play it.

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Reply #6 on: November 30, 2005, 04:43:51 PM
No.. Hermione is not hot. Hermione is a little know it all. Ginny is hot.

Professor McGonagall.... :-* ;D
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Reply #7 on: November 30, 2005, 04:47:54 PM
Brahms is not to everyone's taste.   8)


That is their loss...
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Reply #8 on: December 01, 2005, 03:08:54 AM
Does anybody know of an good recordings of )p. 76,79,116-119?

It is too bad Gould did not record all of them, although he did record a few of them.

How good are The four Ballads?



Hermione is so hotter than Ginny. and she knows everything too.
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Reply #9 on: December 01, 2005, 03:33:43 AM
Does anybody know of an good recordings of )p. 76,79,116-119?

It is too bad Gould did not record all of them, although he did record a few of them.

How good are The four Ballads?



Hermione is so hotter than Ginny. and she knows everything too.

If you can find the recordings of Julius Katchen playing the shorter pieces that would be the one to have IMO. He was an extraordinary pianist who died young, of cancer I believe. Emannuel Ax, Sviatoslav Richter and Emil Gilels have also made some fine recordings of the shorter works.
I think the Ballades are early pieces, remarkable for a young composer but not as interesting as the work of the mature Brahms. The d minor "Edward" Ballade #1 is probably the best of the four IMO...

But back to what's really imporatant; you guys are fixated on the wrong chicks! Hermione does know everything and is hot but she is an annoying know it all. Ginny is not very bright, simpering and, uh, jailbait. Consider the other fine babes 'o Hogwarts...

Fleur Delacour! Smart, gorgeous, kind of annoying but will make you look good when you are seen with her.  ;D

Luna Lovegood! Kind of a ditz, but funny and entertaining, and she is always there to fight for right. She is truly unafraid of the dark Lord and his mofos...AND HER DAD IS RICH AND INFLUENTIAL..yeh  :-*

Cho Chang...? Overemotional and clingy, hot babe but smothering; to be avoided, Harry was right... :P

Parvati Patil...Harry's default junior prom date or something like that if I recall correctly; your average chick, I guess... ::)

Moaning Myrtle....for "a swirly kind of love!"  ;D
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Re: My name is Brahms, Johannes Brahms. (yay!)
Reply #10 on: December 02, 2005, 03:31:51 AM
If you can find the recordings of Julius Katchen playing the shorter pieces that would be the one to have IMO. He was an extraordinary pianist who died young, of cancer I believe. Emannuel Ax, Sviatoslav Richter and Emil Gilels have also made some fine recordings of the shorter works.
I think the Ballades are early pieces, remarkable for a young composer but not as interesting as the work of the mature Brahms. The d minor "Edward" Ballade #1 is probably the best of the four IMO...

But back to what's really imporatant; you guys are fixated on the wrong chicks! Hermione does know everything and is hot but she is an annoying know it all. Ginny is not very bright, simpering and, uh, jailbait. Consider the other fine babes 'o Hogwarts...

Fleur Delacour! Smart, gorgeous, kind of annoying but will make you look good when you are seen with her.  ;D

Luna Lovegood! Kind of a ditz, but funny and entertaining, and she is always there to fight for right. She is truly unafraid of the dark Lord and his mofos...AND HER DAD IS RICH AND INFLUENTIAL..yeh  :-*

Cho Chang...? Overemotional and clingy, hot babe but smothering; to be avoided, Harry was right... :P

Parvati Patil...Harry's default junior prom date or something like that if I recall correctly; your average chick, I guess... ::)

Moaning Myrtle....for "a swirly kind of love!"  ;D




so who's the number one choice? I'd still go with Hermione, but maybe after she stops being so  hormonal like most other teenage girls.

Oh, and can someone answer this for me: why are most teenage girls sluts? What happened to deceny? 
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Re: My name is Brahms, Johannes Brahms. (yay!)
Reply #11 on: December 02, 2005, 05:27:47 AM



so who's the number one choice? I'd still go with Hermione, but maybe after she stops being so  hormonal like most other teenage girls.

Oh, and can someone answer this for me: why are most teenage girls sluts? What happened to deceny? 

These girls are too young for me! But if I were a Hogwarts student, I would probably end up with Luna Lovegood, I have often dated the "odd" or different and "weird" girls.

Hormonal is good, it's what turns girls into, uh, women! And that's a good thing!  ;)

Contrapunctus I assume you are a teenage boy; guess what! You are hormonal too!  ;D
I was once a teenager and like most men part of me is frozen at age 13. However unlike many adult men I am aware of this, and enjoy it!  I don't ever want to be completely grown-up. What a drag, those are the people who have no fun. My primary work is teaching piano to young people who are interested in playing well and improving. About half of these young pianists are HORMONAL TEENAGERS ages 12 to 18, young men and women. So I consider myself to have a unique insight into adolescents, as someone who can still empathize with their dillemas and is not your typical adult authority figure. Now, to my main point.

I may be wrong but it sounds to me like you are resentful of girls...guess what, they have hormones and want to "drive the car"  ;) as much as any guy does. I hear this from teenage boys all the time, "all the girls are sluts"...hey, it could be worse!  ;D  They are not all sluts anymore than guys are. It might just seem like it to you, because you are looking at them, and you like what you see. It's a catch-22; guess what I hear from the girls? "Boys can only think about one thing!" and it's not food.... ;) . Which came first, the chicken or the egg? Can boys only think about one thing because of the way girls dress, or are the girls just trying to cater to our animal instinct, because they want us to like them? Dunno....doesn't really matter.

Where has decency gone? Well, did your decent bad self just spring up out of nowhere? No. You were brought up to be that way, or you are rebelling against or repulsed by what you see around you and there are girls like you, who are wondering the same thing. Now, where to find them? Find a goup of young people who hold similair values as you do. Maybe in your piano studio, a church youth group (maybe that''s not your bag but I throw it out for what it's worth), political organization, chess or math club, you're a smart guy and you'll figure it out.

Your Hermionie waits for you somewhere! Be patient, girls become impossible to avoid very soon, they will be hunting your decent ass down and tackling you! Hard to believe? You just wait, you'll see! High School is bull****, and soon it will be behind you.  :)
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Re: My name is Brahms, Johannes Brahms. (yay!)
Reply #12 on: December 03, 2005, 04:15:57 AM
Quote from: Contrapunctus link=topic=14369.msg154734#msg154734
Oh, and can someone answer this for me: why are most teenage girls sluts? What happened to deceny? 

Given your question one I'd say the answer to question 2 is that you probably never had it to begin with :)

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Re: My name is Brahms, Johannes Brahms. (yay!)
Reply #13 on: December 03, 2005, 12:27:52 PM



so who's the number one choice? I'd still go with Hermione, but maybe after she stops being so hormonal like most other teenage girls.

Oh, and can someone answer this for me: why are most teenage girls sluts? What happened to deceny?

 Hermione is smart, and has brains. And those are getting quite hard to find these days (especially among girls). For deceny I refer you to Arensky's post. As a hormonal 18 year old I find it very strange for me to have these desires and repsulveness of many girls I have known. I think that you too sufer some jealusness that I once had of girls.
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Reply #14 on: December 03, 2005, 05:13:08 PM
LMAO the ads! "Jomannes Brahms", "Hooked on Harry", "Chess Masters", it's too much. Where lau posts recipes half the ads are about food !  ;D  I'm getting local ads for music schools and teachers and music stores a lot.  ::)

Maybe Orwell was right..... :o
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Reply #15 on: December 03, 2005, 08:46:21 PM
and ironic, in this context that Brahms sexual feelings were complex to say the least, and that his relations with women seemed to have been forever blighted from his enforced working as a teenage pianist in a hamburg brothel..    hermoine gets my vote btw
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