My small repetoire

[rachellel]

 I am 14 years old turning 15 in January and from Australia. I have been playing piano for almost 10 years now and I have completed 8 AMEB Grades + up to 6th theory grades.

My small repetoire list:

Malaguena -Albeniz
Tango -Albeniz

Prelude and Fugue Book 1, No 1 -Bach
Prelude No. 1 -Bach

Fur Elise -Beethoven
Moonlight Sonata 1st mvt -Beethoven

Rondo Alla Turca-Mozart

Minute Waltz -Chopin
Fantasie Impromtu -Chopin
Nocturne Op9 No2-Chopin
Mazurka Op 59 No.1 -Chopin
Waltz Op 64 No 2 -Chopin
Prelude op 28 No 7, 15 (raindrop) -Chopin
Etude Op 10 No 3, 6, 11 (I havn't played these etudes for a while)

Traumerei 1,2,3 -Schumann

Sonata L 275 -Scarlatti
Sonata L 167 -Scarlatti

Allegro Grazioso Op 1 No 9 -Liszt (7th grade exam AMEB)

I learned some of them for grade 7 exam and I liked them so I kept playing them, I have also played some Mozart sonata's but I can't remember them, I stay away from Liszt because I can barely stretch an octave, I tried Military polonaise by Chopin but I can't play the stretches.

[Kassaa]

Maybe you can try Chopin's first and second polonaise (Op. 26 no1 and no2), some early Beethoven sonatas etc.

[rachellel]

What about Hammerklavier, I know its hard but I am up for a challenge after I finish my next few pieces.

[pita bread]

Did I really just read that? Don't go for the Hammerklavier, go for the 111 

[I Love Xenakis]

Yeah I wouldn't recommend the Hammerklavier.  How bout some Soler or Debussy?

[rachellel]

Are Debussy Preludes difficult ? I might listen to some.

[I Love Xenakis]

Are Debussy Preludes difficult ? I might listen to some.

The Debussy preludes range from rediculously easy to insanely difficult.

[pita bread]

Try the Ravel Valses Nobles et Sentimentales, a decent length set that should keep you occupied for a while.

[zheer]

What about Hammerklavier, I know its hard but I am up for a challenge after I finish my next few pieces.

  Why climb a mountain if you have not even climbd a hill. Too many young people cant play a Mozart Sonata, and they are talking about learning tha Liszt sonata.
 

[rachellel]

I can play Mozart Sonata's, I have a small repetoire because most of the previous pieces i have played I have forgotten due to not practising them frequently and the only Liszt song I have ever played is the one mentioned in my rep and that is a grade 7 piece, I would love to play Hungarian Rhapsody No 2, Or some Concert Etudes But I know my hands are to small and I need to wait a couple of years, I know my limits! I wanted to make it a long term project to learn either Appassionata or Hammerklavier either this year or next year.

I am not one of those people who choose pieces above there level, I have never seen the sheet music to either of these sonatas, do they have big stretches in them (anything over an octave).

[zheer]

I am not one of those people who choose pieces above there level, I have never seen the sheet music to either of these sonatas, do they have big stretches in them (anything over an octave).

   The fact that you cant even hear if these sonatas have big stretches in them, is enough for me to conclude that you are wasting your time thinking about learning the Hammerklavier.

[Kassaa]

   The fact that you cant even hear if these sonatas have big stretches in them, is enough for me to conclude that you are wasting your time thinking about learning the Hammerklavier.

Harsh, but true.

[brahmsian]

I am not one of those people who choose pieces above there level,

Looking at your rep, I would venture that Hammerklavier is above your level. I would suggest:

Beethoven- Sonata Op. 28 (Pastorale)
                  Sonata Op. 81a (Les Adieux)

If you want to learn some Liszt, check out the Consolations, maybe a later Hungarian Rhapsody (17 or 18)

It's great to be adventurous and try pieces above your level, but I don't think it pays off in the long run. Doing so can hurt your technique becuase you haven't had the time to build it up properly. (speaking from personal experience)

[paris]

What about Hammerklavier, I know its hard but I am up for a challenge after I finish my next few pieces.

Even if you had technique required for Hammerklavier, I don't think you are mental enough mature to understand late Beethoven sonatas.
After all, there's huge step between Moonlight and Hammerklavier.

[pita bread]

Looking at your rep, I would venture that Hammerklavier is above your level. I would suggest:

Beethoven- Sonata Op. 28 (Pastorale)
 Sonata Op. 81a (Les Adieux)

If you want to learn some Liszt, check out the Consolations, maybe a later Hungarian Rhapsody (17 or 18)

Ew. Consolations. Ewww. Late Hungarian Rhapsodies (no offence if you like them)

I suggest you look into these:

Liszt - Gnomenreigen
Liszt - Hungarian Rhapsodies #4, 7, and the wacky glissando one (dont remember what #)

[etudes]

Ew. Consolations. Ewww. Late Hungarian Rhapsodies (no offence if you like them)

I suggest you look into these:

Liszt - Gnomenreigen
Liszt - Hungarian Rhapsodies #4, 7, and the wacky glissando one (dont remember what #)

no.10? (if my memory isnt wrong)

[I Love Xenakis]

Whoever suggested Les Adieux should be shot.


If you really wanna do Liszt try maybe Liebestraume No. 3, Un Sospiro, Gnomenreigen, Waldesrauchen, or some movements from like Annees des Pelerinage or Harmonies Poetiques et Religiouse (spelling)

[rachellel]

I wanted to learn Gnomenreigen but it sounded pretty hard, my teacher said she thinks I could handle it but I said no. Liebestraume No. 3 is beautiful, i might learn that and i might learn the 2nd and 3rd movement to moonlight sonata instead, thanks guys for all of the helpful replies.

[pita bread]

Gnomenreigen is one of those pieces that sounds a lot harder than it is. If your teacher thinks you can handle it, and you want to play it, why not? It'll help your technique a lot.

[brahmsian]

Whoever suggested Les Adieux should be shot.

Why?

[pita bread]

no.10? (if my memory isnt wrong)

I believe you're right.

As for Les Adieux, if she has problems with anything larger than an octave, the series of legato chords and bass figurations would probably be taxing on her hands.

[I Love Xenakis]

Why?

*shoots you*

[musicsdarkangel]

I am not one of those people who choose pieces above there level, I have never seen the sheet music to either of these sonatas, do they have big stretches in them (anything over an octave).

In that case, don't try the Hammerklavier, Appassionata, op 111 etc.

Go for an earlier sonata; find one that you love.  Op 10 no 1 or op 31 no 2 (Tempest) are two of my favorites.  See what you like.

Do challenge yourself, a Rachmaninoff prelude perhaps?  op 23 no 7 has an excellent combination of speed, dynamics, and phrasing.

I know a girl who has super small hands and can nail the Ravel Sonatine.  That would be quite a challenge, but you can always take it slower and eventually speed it up.  Once again, just find music you like within your abilities.

[pita bread]

For Beethoven, I'd suggest the Op. 78 or 79 Sonatas. (But that's my preference, I despise the early-to-middle-ish sonatas)

[cfortunato]

How about Beethoven's two-movement Sonata in G - Sonata 20, Op. 49 No. 2?  It seems to be about the level you're at, and is a fine permanent addition to a repertoire.

[lau]

How do you do the thing where you post somebody elses post so they know that you are talking to them?

Best CHRISTmas

Lau

[pita bread]

How do you do the thing where you post somebody elses post so they know that you are talking to them?

Best CHRISTmas

Lau

Use the "Quote" function.

[contrapunctus]

How about Beethoven's two-movement Sonata in G - Sonata 20, Op. 49 No. 2?  It seems to be about the level you're at, and is a fine permanent addition to a repertoire.

ha ha, very funny

my theory to see what a level a forum member is at is to average the level of the peices mentioned and then subtract 2 or 3 levels from that, and you get it

[I Love Xenakis]

ha ha, very funny

my theory to see what a level a forum member is at is to average the level of the peices mentioned and then subtract 2 or 3 levels from that, and you get it

Why how cynical of you

[leahcim]

Why how cynical of you

...but does it work?

The other day I re-evaluated myself with regards to my pianistic abilities. I can play some Level 8+ peices, but can only play level 6/7 nearly error free, and I can sight read cleanly up to level 4.

(8+6/7)  / 2 - 3 = ~1.4

[jamie_liszt]

The Appassionata isnt that hard, just long, im learning the 1st movement.

[pita bread]

Quote of the day:

The Appassionata isnt that hard, just long, im learning the 1st movement.

[jamie_liszt]

im talking about the 1st movement, and i wasnt going into detail, i forgot you have to go into every little detail and explain fully on this forum otherwise people will think ur a dumbass or something. Here is a more in depth opinion lol.

Appassionata, IMO the first movement isnt all that hard, apart from the ending which i know i will have difficulty with because its so fast. The 2nd mvt IMO isnt overly hard at all, the third movement is hard. Under pressure (competitions, performances) it would be hard to pull off even the 2nd mvt. im just talkin about playing in my bedroom/home, who cares about mistakes and im also comparing Appassionata to Hammerklavier, its easier then Hammerklavier..

[brewtality]

The third movement is bloody hard to play well.

[jamie_liszt]

Thats damn true, im sticking to the 1st movement for now

[skeptolotapus]

That's really an amazin repertory you got there.  Ima jelous of it (for fun).  You hafta be reel reel good to play a sonata by Ludvig von Beetoven.  I hope someday I will be able to try one but rite now I gotta finnish the simplicated "For Alisa' so I can play the regular one then maybe I'll be able to try a sonata too.  hyuk hyuk hyuk 

[rachellel]

ive finished these now

Rondo Alla Turca
Fantasie Impromtu
Nocturne Op 9 No 2

[lau]

[lau]

testing testing

testing

[lau]

I still can't get it to work

[contrapunctus]

...but does it work?

(8+6/7)  / 2 - 3 = ~1.4

I love your inability to do math correctly. I said to average the levels and then subtract a couple levels from that. So a person who averages at, say, 7 would really be a level 5. Those are not true stats for myself. And, the formula thing was just a joke.

[pita bread]

I love your inability to do math correctly. I said to average the levels and then subtract a couple levels from that. So a person who averages at, say, 7 would really be a level 5. Those are not true stats for myself. And, the formula thing was just a joke.

I think leahcim's formula was to work for you only.

[etudes]

The Appassionata isnt that hard, just long, im learning the 1st movement.

how fast you can play it now? up to tempo??? how deep in detail that you reach all the pedal,dynamic (not talk about phrasing yet)
it´s really difficult sonata (even from some of my friends that are very good pianists)most of them told me that the first movement is the most difficult.....when you have to push it up to level (the third is also difficult but for me first is more difficult)