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felia
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your personal tone color
on: December 30, 2005, 06:56:00 AM
Dear friends,
There are plenty of pianist in this world. Some of them have a silver cool piano touch, like K. Zimmermann, Hamelin. while some other like Authur Rubienstien has a warm touch.
i will decribe mine is just warm and full touch but easily got blur with, so i got to be very careful with my pedal.
how do you decribe yours.
Post this up for fun:P
happy new year,
luv
felia
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jamie_liszt
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Re: your personal tone color
Reply #1 on: December 30, 2005, 07:17:01 AM
I seem to play pretty loud and bash the piano (like richter) but i can get alot of dynamics if i want to. My teacher says its a habit that i play to loud. hmm...
I guess its an advantage that i can play extra loud (if needed) but i can play extra extra extra soft, lol i can play softer then my teacher if i try (i guess its an advantage, i can get alot of dynamics in my playing)
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jalgor
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Re: your personal tone color
Reply #2 on: December 30, 2005, 09:36:16 AM
Raw and uneven.
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gruffalo
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Re: your personal tone color
Reply #3 on: December 30, 2005, 12:38:50 PM
smooth in tone, lumpy in rhythm. if that makes any sense.
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musicsdarkangel
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Re: your personal tone color
Reply #4 on: December 30, 2005, 06:59:26 PM
Warm over bright for the most part (unless i'm playing Mozart).
Less percussive than most pianist's tone color.
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Floristan
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Re: your personal tone color
Reply #5 on: December 30, 2005, 07:08:13 PM
Warm and rich and full when I'm relaxed and confident. Harsh and brittle and thin when I'm nervous and not fully in control.
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leahcim
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Re: your personal tone color
Reply #6 on: December 30, 2005, 07:53:37 PM
Quote from: felia on December 30, 2005, 06:56:00 AM
how do you decribe yours.
Having recorded a lot recently on a new laptop, I'd describe it as Bl**y awful
It's only partly yamaha's fault too
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zheer
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Re: your personal tone color
Reply #7 on: December 30, 2005, 08:11:36 PM
It really depends on what piano you play on, all the personal tone colour can be achieved on a good piano, and with age and time one pays more attention to these things. Horowitz is King when it comes to tone colour.
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gruffalo
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Re: your personal tone color
Reply #8 on: December 30, 2005, 09:29:21 PM
Horowitz is the king
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leahcim
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Re: your personal tone color
Reply #9 on: December 31, 2005, 02:51:06 AM
Quote from: gruffalo on December 30, 2005, 09:29:21 PM
Horowitz is the king
That's blue suede then is it?
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gorbee natcase
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Re: your personal tone color
Reply #10 on: December 31, 2005, 03:16:22 PM
I execute mozart with pearly evenness or at least thats what I aim for
Beethoven with passion
Chopin with fineness
Rach with emotion
Brahms I don't play
tchykovsky eccentricaly
It depends on the piece and composer
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quantum
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Re: your personal tone color
Reply #11 on: January 02, 2006, 06:58:18 PM
I'd describe mine as big sound, huge dynamic range: from psychotic pounding of the keys to almost inaudiable pianissimos. I lean towards a warm, deep, dark, and lush tone with full use of all pedals. Beauty and resonance of tone has prime improtance - I use dry sound verry sparringly. If I discover wonderous tone within a piece I am playing, I will not rush through a phrase but revel in the moment. I use influences from other senses: touch, taste, smell, sight - of things familiar to me to aid in the production of more varied tones and states of mind. I love huge contrast - on the spur of the moment I can switch from the feeling of a warm comforting and relaxing bath, to the shrillness of metal scraping metal, to imitation bird song, to the sound of a Mack truck hitting a brick wall.
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kelly_kelly
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Re: your personal tone color
Reply #12 on: January 02, 2006, 09:16:47 PM
I think mine is kind of light and fluid (or I hope so
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pianistimo
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Re: your personal tone color
Reply #13 on: January 02, 2006, 10:37:19 PM
mine was highly dependent on heavier use of pedal until the more recent lessons on not making mushy sounds. so i guess mushy muddled sounds were my tone color - and i'm striving for crystal clear sounds. quick pedalling. clarity. don't know about my dynamic ranges anymore either. i think my teacher considered them too carefully thought out and kinda boring. at least i learned the gradations and make them quite similar in repeats, etc. - but am learning that you don't have to do everything the same way twice.
in otherwords - the more piano lessons - the more you just forget what you learned before and try to be as creative as you were when you first started taking lessons (and had that teacher with the pencil beat it out of you).
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whynot
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Re: your personal tone color
Reply #14 on: January 03, 2006, 04:24:35 AM
(quoting Floristan): Warm and rich and full when I'm relaxed and confident. Harsh and brittle and thin when I'm nervous and not fully in control.
Same here.
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e60m5
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Re: your personal tone color
Reply #15 on: January 03, 2006, 04:32:21 AM
Depends on many factors, such as the instrument, the repertoire concerned, the occassion, and my mood.
Even if I have a preconceived notion in my head of the tone I wish to produce in a certain passage, I will not always try to produce this tone. I would not, for example, try to produce a hazy, rounded tone in a passage if the instrument I am currently using makes this nigh-on-impossible; rather, I would prefer to adapt my interpretation on the fly so as to make use of what tone colours are available to me as defined by the instrument and the acoustics.
And if I'm in a bad mood, I might want a much more furious, harsh and grating tone than I might want at other times.
In short - it depends.
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BoliverAllmon
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Re: your personal tone color
Reply #16 on: January 03, 2006, 06:41:05 AM
full, bright, crisp
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invictus
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Re: your personal tone color
Reply #17 on: January 03, 2006, 07:05:44 AM
Cold and Bright
Silvery Blue
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demented cow
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Re: your personal tone color
Reply #18 on: January 05, 2006, 01:49:38 PM
My touch and technique have certain unmistakable similarities to what you hear in a Horowitz record:
Horowitz had fingers made of steel with velvet tips.
I have fingers made of velvet with steel tips.
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ibbar
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Re: your personal tone color
Reply #19 on: January 15, 2006, 12:24:49 AM
I would say that generally, my playing is inclined to be angular and harsh. My phrases are generally clipped off fairly sharply at their ends, and I tend to place larger emphasis on notes in the extreme registers.
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lostinidlewonder
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Re: your personal tone color
Reply #20 on: January 16, 2006, 06:02:32 AM
Like oil in water color.
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danyal
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Re: your personal tone color
Reply #21 on: January 16, 2006, 01:20:52 PM
It depends from composer to mood to whatever the circumstance happens to be at the time... but generally, I have a big, warm sound when it comes to romantic music, and my mozart is light and crisp. Really, every composer is different. I dont play Brahms the same way I play Bach... But generally (imo, without hearing a recording of myself, i'm too scared...) I'm neat with a warm rich, sound. Hopefully.
Oh... jamie_liszt... Richter may play loud but he certainly does not bash. One does not become one of the worlds greatest pianists by bashing.
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brewtality
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Re: your personal tone color
Reply #22 on: January 16, 2006, 01:56:44 PM
He did bang, obviously not all the time though. I don't think there is anything wrong with using it occasionally, for example some of the Symphonic etudes sound good with some banging. As for my own tone, it is metallic, ringing and thin but I do the best I can. Despite being a tone freak, it's hard to coax a decent sound out of my piano, though moving it about 30 cm from the wall helps.
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jamie_liszt
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Re: your personal tone color
Reply #23 on: January 16, 2006, 01:59:19 PM
Richter calmed down a little in his older years
he still bashed the piano when it deserved a beating.
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pianalex
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Re: your personal tone color
Reply #24 on: January 16, 2006, 02:39:54 PM
i was at a class where menahim pressler told a student ' ..if you hit the piano, it says ouch!'
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anathema device
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Re: your personal tone color
Reply #25 on: January 21, 2006, 11:48:20 AM
Quote from: jalgor on December 30, 2005, 09:36:16 AM
Raw and uneven.
Haha. Mine, too.
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peiwin
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Re: your personal tone color
Reply #26 on: January 22, 2006, 01:08:05 PM
er.... i dont know how s my touch
But i like warm touch, thats what i trying hard to do now....
And that's why i like Arthur Rubienstein!!
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tompilk
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Re: your personal tone color
Reply #27 on: January 22, 2006, 03:11:17 PM
uneven... too much pedal... kind of a brown bit with splodges i would say if you had to represent in colors...
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infectedmushroom
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Re: your personal tone color
Reply #28 on: January 23, 2006, 12:32:51 AM
My tone color depends on my mood. If I'm angry and play an "evil" piece, I will play very loud with a lot of volume, but still a bright sound though. I would say my color would be Black in this stage (though, black isn't really a color
).
When I'm happy, my tone will be bright and quite cold. Silver/Blue kinda color.
If I play an, emotionally beautiful or sad piece, my tone will be warm and soft most of the time. A little less bright. A (dark) Red kinda color I think.
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jalgor
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Re: your personal tone color
Reply #29 on: January 23, 2006, 07:50:49 AM
Quote from: anathema device on January 21, 2006, 11:48:20 AM
Haha. Mine, too.
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Waldszenen
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Re: your personal tone color
Reply #30 on: January 23, 2006, 08:35:33 AM
Classical period tone (eg like Schnabel or Brendel)
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maul
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Re: your personal tone color
Reply #31 on: January 23, 2006, 11:35:36 AM
I have no color. I empty my mind. I am formless, shapeless... like water. Now you put water in a cup, it becomes the cup. You put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle. You put it in a teapot... it becomes the teapot. Water can flow, or it can crash. Be water my friend.
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