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Offline stevie

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Suicide
on: January 16, 2006, 10:05:22 AM
hahaha, random topic

but, why do people kill themselves?

randomly?

also notice the amount of random people saying online that they will kill themselves, and thinking suicide is cool

quite disturbing

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suicide

hahaha, read about it

'It should be noted that by the stricter definition, acts of suicide are only committed by human beings; no other healthy organism capable of reproducing that is currently known of, aside from homo sapien, terminates its life with the central intention being its own death.'

true

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Re: Suicide
Reply #1 on: January 16, 2006, 10:20:30 AM
Some would say smoking and drinking is a slow way ov commiting suicide, i personally think the way i drive on the motorway is rather suicidal. Sorry to showoff but i once did 130 Mph in a mercedes benz on the motorway. It was orgasmic.
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Re: Suicide
Reply #2 on: January 16, 2006, 10:43:18 AM
zheer has a crush on stevie and posts right after he does its really quite cute..randomly..mildly..legendarily...rezpecfully...whatever im getting sick of internet
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Re: Suicide
Reply #3 on: January 16, 2006, 06:00:57 PM
I did attempt suicide once. I blew my brains out with steroids and had a schizoid embellism.

I overdosed on sleeping pills but obviously not enough. I was sectioned under the mental health act and spent 4 months in the loony bin.

Thankfuly, I is recovered with apparently no lasting damage.

I can understand why people try it. When there is no light at the end of the tunnel, death might be seen as the answer.
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Re: Suicide
Reply #4 on: January 16, 2006, 06:06:19 PM
randomly..mildly..legendarily...rezpecfully...

politely?

dignity, love and joy.

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Re: Suicide
Reply #5 on: January 16, 2006, 06:07:03 PM
Hay thalb am sorry to hear about that , can you tell us why.
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Re: Suicide
Reply #6 on: January 16, 2006, 06:13:46 PM
I will be honest am not suicidal, but i have gon through very hard times in my already short life. I still have days when am not very happy its usually late at night but am ok in the morning. Like most people i might appear very confidant on the outside but from the inside i have my insecurities, and doubts.
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Re: Suicide
Reply #7 on: January 16, 2006, 06:16:11 PM
Do you know that apparently Arthur Rubinstine tryd to commit suicide but he faild.
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Re: Suicide
Reply #8 on: January 16, 2006, 08:23:14 PM
Did not Tchaikovsky throw himself in a river??

I wonder how many composers have attempted to pop their own clogs??
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Re: Suicide
Reply #9 on: January 16, 2006, 08:37:09 PM
Do you know that apparently Arthur Rubinstine tryd to commit suicide but he faild.

Ah know someone who did the same thing. He obviously didnt really want to do it otherwise he wouldnt have failed.


'It should be noted that by the stricter definition, acts of suicide are only committed by human beings; no other healthy organism capable of reproducing that is currently known of, aside from homo sapien, terminates its life with the central intention being its own death.'



Perhaps the intention is not to create ones own death but to free ones own pain or find answers. Animals dont harber enough intelligence to contemplate on these levels and thus simply live to live and fear death. Man has the strange desire to overcome/ fear of his animal instincts. Man has stongely distinguishable emotion. Man has choice.

Hate to quote the Matrix, but "No one can see beyond a choice that they don't understand"
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Re: Suicide
Reply #10 on: January 16, 2006, 08:51:18 PM
Did not Tchaikovsky throw himself in a river??

I wonder how many composers have attempted to pop their own clogs??
 
   I think great composers, poets, painters,are more intune with the human emotions,
their greatness is the fact that they can express emotions, thought and so on better than the average person. Infact i think we learn a lot about the human psychology through composers like Beethoven and Rachmaninoff. So i guess if you are like one of those people you are like an open wound.
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Re: Suicide
Reply #11 on: January 16, 2006, 09:25:22 PM
the character of our consciousness is a 'funny' thing. It can be intrepreted as a burden. It can become very puzzling.
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Re: Suicide
Reply #12 on: January 17, 2006, 01:49:47 AM
once i heard a story, that dealt with a woman who was committing suicide by throwing herself out of the building. unfortunately she hit a pensioner, who wasnt seriously injured by her. well, the ambulance succeded in getting involved in a traffic accidenct. nothing happend. that kind of sucks if you really want to die
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Re: Suicide
Reply #13 on: January 17, 2006, 07:10:16 AM
the character of our consciousness is a 'funny' thing. It can be intrepreted as a burden. It can become very puzzling.

To me it's like how any great technology can be used for good or evil (nuclear power can provide us with energy, or blow up the earth :P). A persons mind can realize their dreams, or go the other way into depression deep enough to consider suicide.

I've glimpsed down there a bit BTW, so I can understand the perspective that might bring someone to kill themselves. But like any strong emotion, one doesn't have very clear judgement in that condition. Suicide is just a tad shortsighted.

On the bright side (;D), having been there, one can learn how NOT to go back and be stronger for it. Depression that is.

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Re: Suicide
Reply #14 on: January 17, 2006, 02:14:57 PM
i wasn't even trying and look what happened to me. 

*pick up line:  meet me on the ledge.

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Re: Suicide
Reply #15 on: January 17, 2006, 09:43:51 PM
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Re: Suicide
Reply #16 on: January 17, 2006, 09:46:58 PM
*Waiting*

   Love is in the air, do do dodo dodo dooooooooo ;D
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Re: Suicide
Reply #17 on: January 18, 2006, 12:44:09 AM
i don't always feel like this - but there is something about a mountaintop or hill where you just sit and think.  contemplation.  quietness.  i think people are driven to madness in cities.  too congested and crowded.  too many people and problems.  just watching animals makes me feel better.  we have a bicycle trail here that has a multitude of animals from turtles, to birds, rabbits, badgers, skunks, deer, chipmunks, squirrels - i love it because i can feel terrible and go for a ride and come back and feel much better.

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Re: Suicide
Reply #18 on: January 18, 2006, 04:14:19 AM
Why do you all have to be overly emotional? It is not hard to control and restrain emotions once you realize that nothing actually matters whatsoever (except religion if you are religious). Once you realize this, there is not reson to even have emotions. So gain control!!!!!  (and if you can't, have a lobotomy ;D)
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Re: Suicide
Reply #19 on: January 18, 2006, 07:12:50 AM
you can't just tell a depressed person not to have feelings - and nature doesn't cheer up everyone - although i tend to think for myself - getting exercise hiking or biking has been = to taking some kind of drugs to cheer up.  i don't think drugs or lobotomies or electric shock (although proclaimed by some who give it - that it works) is the answer fully.  it probably has to do with support systems.  people who have little or no support are often more majorly depressed.  if you don't have a support system - you have to start building one.  for religious people, it would start with God.  having some trust.  building a relationship.  then, working out from that.  asking for help to find friends that you can trust - build a relationship - and that will stand by you and support you when you are in whatever state you are in.  if everyone who got depressed was labelled as unable to control their feelings - they might feel 'abandoned.'  but, if understood and accepted no matter what - then the inner feelings might come out and be resolved.  many people hide those inner feelings and thoughts so they are accepted in society.  drugs can't mask feelings - just a temporary fix.  speaking about it causes a degree of understanding and awareness that other people also have depression at various times in their lives.  music therapy might be another alternative solution to just using drugs.

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Re: Suicide
Reply #20 on: January 18, 2006, 01:49:49 PM
ive heard you can be so happy, but can be effected by chemical depression. and no matter how great things are going for you in life, you just feel miserable. anyone want to enlighten me on this? ive just heard a bit about it.

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Re: Suicide
Reply #21 on: January 18, 2006, 03:38:46 PM
or, maybe just plain oxygen depletion and circulation problems.  exercise give you a boost of a lot of good stuff and even if you are having chemical problems - it seems to balance mine.  also, it encourages a better DIET (ie drinking lots of water - eating right).  if you just drink soda and eat chips - you're probably going to be out chemically.

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Re: Suicide
Reply #22 on: January 19, 2006, 05:03:19 AM
you can't just tell a depressed person not to have feelings - and nature doesn't cheer up everyone - although i tend to think for myself - getting exercise hiking or biking has been = to taking some kind of drugs to cheer up.  i don't think drugs or lobotomies or electric shock (although proclaimed by some who give it - that it works) is the answer fully.  it probably has to do with support systems.  people who have little or no support are often more majorly depressed.  if you don't have a support system - you have to start building one.  for religious people, it would start with God.  having some trust.  building a relationship.  then, working out from that.  asking for help to find friends that you can trust - build a relationship - and that will stand by you and support you when you are in whatever state you are in.  if everyone who got depressed was labelled as unable to control their feelings - they might feel 'abandoned.'  but, if understood and accepted no matter what - then the inner feelings might come out and be resolved.  many people hide those inner feelings and thoughts so they are accepted in society.  drugs can't mask feelings - just a temporary fix.  speaking about it causes a degree of understanding and awareness that other people also have depression at various times in their lives.  music therapy might be another alternative solution to just using drugs.

I don't think you understand what a frontal lobotomy is. It is when the surgeon removes the entire prefrontal cortex part of the brain (in your forehead). You literally can't have emotions or feelings. You also have much trouble putting two and two together.
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Re: Suicide
Reply #23 on: January 19, 2006, 05:15:08 AM
I don't think you understand what a frontal lobotomy is. It is when the surgeon removes the entire prefrontal cortex part of the brain (in your forehead). You literally can't have emotions or feelings. You also have much trouble putting two and two together.

A new treatment for depression!

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Re: Suicide
Reply #24 on: February 05, 2006, 11:25:40 AM
'It should be noted that by the stricter definition, acts of suicide are only committed by human beings; no other healthy organism capable of reproducing that is currently known of, aside from homo sapien, terminates its life with the central intention being its own death.'

What about lemmings??    ;D
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