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Offline Noah

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Advice for concerto
on: October 10, 2003, 07:50:30 PM
I'm looking for a concerto to play at a competition in March. I was thinking of playing Shostakovich n.2, because I don't have that much time to practice since I'm studying physics at university. But I heard today that the orchestra played the Shostakovich recently, so I have to find another concerto.
I can't take Schumann either, nor Rachmaninov 2, nor Grieg (they also played it recently).
I'm tempted to do a Mozart, but I know it's very hard to win a competition with one of his concertos since it's very subjective. I played Beethoven's 3rd last year and don't really wanna go for another Beethoven.
Have you got any ideas as to which concerto would suit ? I have about 2 hours a day to practice, and I'm preparing the DipABRSM exam (though I don't find the repertoire requirements for it very challenging).
Thanks for your help,

Noah
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Re: Advice for concerto
Reply #1 on: October 10, 2003, 08:01:51 PM
Which competition is it? What are the time limits?
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Re: Advice for concerto
Reply #2 on: October 10, 2003, 08:05:01 PM
Well it's a concerto competition at uni. If you win you get to play with the orchestra. The level is quite high, because there are part-time RCM students at uni.
There's no time limit. You play the whole concerto at the audition with a second pianist.
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Re: Advice for concerto
Reply #3 on: October 10, 2003, 08:29:23 PM
Here are my suggestions seperated into eras:

Classical:
Haydn D major (no.11)
Mozart D minor (no.20)
Mozart C major (no.21)
Beethoven C major (no.1)

Romantic:
Chopin no.2
Liszt no.2

20th Century:
Rachmaninov no.1
Rachmaninov Rhapsody on a theme of Paganini
Ravel G major
Bartok no.3
Prokofiev no.1
Prokofiev no.2 (my personal favourite piece)
Prokofiev no.3
Khatchaturian Piano Concerto
De Falla: Nights in the gardens of Spain

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Re: Advice for concerto
Reply #4 on: October 11, 2003, 04:12:18 AM
I would disagree with the suggestion of the Rachmaninov Rhapsody on a Theme of Paganini. Without much time to practice, that piece would be hell. And yes, I have played it before.

But how about something like Beethoven's Emperor concerto, or the Liszt Totentanz?

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Re: Advice for concerto
Reply #5 on: October 11, 2003, 04:31:56 AM
How about Saint-Saens 4th concerto in C minor?  That's a fantastic concerto and not as demanding as the Rachmaninoff's.

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Re: Advice for concerto
Reply #6 on: October 11, 2003, 05:47:53 AM
Now that I recall, take a look at Saint-Saens' Piano Concerto no.2 in G Minor.

Absolutely gorgeous.

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Re: Advice for concerto
Reply #7 on: October 11, 2003, 05:19:26 PM
I don't like the Totentanz a lot, and the Emperor.... well that would be another Beethoven =)
I don't know any of the Saint-Saens very well, I'll have a look at them, how hard are they ?
I'm intrigued by the de Falla. Can you tell me more about that piece please ?
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Re: Advice for concerto
Reply #8 on: October 12, 2003, 07:36:21 AM
What about Shostakovich 1st?
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Re: Advice for concerto
Reply #9 on: October 12, 2003, 02:45:00 PM
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I'm intrigued by the de Falla. Can you tell me more about that piece please ?


This is one of my favourite pieces but I am told the orchestral part is quite hard. You can listen to the first minute of every movement here:

https://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B00001R3LV/qid=1065958920/sr=1-3/ref=sr_1_3/102-7592109-9695343?v=glance&s=classical

Argerich has also recorded this piece (with Barenboim),
Ed

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Re: Advice for concerto
Reply #10 on: October 12, 2003, 04:53:35 PM
Scriabin concerto, Tchaikovsky 2 are good, underplayed pieces. Liszt no.1 is a fairly easy to play piece, but very impressive. Or have  a look at the sorabji concerti................. tee hee

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Re: Advice for concerto
Reply #11 on: October 12, 2003, 05:16:35 PM
There is a Sorabji concerto? Now I am intrigued...
Ed

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Re: Advice for concerto
Reply #12 on: October 12, 2003, 08:28:11 PM
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What about Shostakovich 1st?


It's a concerto for trumpet, piano and strings I think

Ed, The de Falla sounds wonderful ! I'll go and buy the Argerich version tomorrow if I find it  :)
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Re: Advice for concerto
Reply #13 on: October 12, 2003, 11:47:23 PM
Do the Mendelssohn G-minor.
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Re: Advice for concerto
Reply #14 on: October 13, 2003, 12:00:02 AM
Glad to help! Oh and by the way, don't do the Mendelssohn G minor  ;),
Ed

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Re: Advice for concerto
Reply #15 on: October 13, 2003, 12:27:31 PM
ed,
I agree, do not do the mendelssohn G minor. There are around 8 sorabji concerti, and I think 2 piano symphonys (the second is supposed to be much harder than Opus Clavicembalisticum). They are not in print though - the manuscripts are probably c/o alistair Hinton, the sorabji archive, Bath.

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Re: Advice for concerto
Reply #16 on: October 13, 2003, 12:52:59 PM
Hey,
What's wrong with the Mendelssohn ?
Ed, do you know who publishes Nights in the Gardens of Spain ?
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Re: Advice for concerto
Reply #17 on: October 14, 2003, 07:03:28 PM
Check out:
www.allegro.co.uk
It has an online catalogue of (almost) all music available from different publishers in the UK and you can order online too. I cannot remember offhand who publishes the De Falla but it is definitely on that site,
Ed
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