How well do you know your Morel? (And Barber, too)

[lagin]

Can someone please tell me what keys Barber's excursions, no. 2 and 3 are in?  And they time signatures would be great too.  As well, does anyone know the key, and time signature for no. 2 of Morel's Deux etudes de sonorite?  Thanks,

lagin

[lagin]

And are they really, really hard?  Or are they same Moonlight 3rd movement hard, which would be rather hard, but not really, really hard.

[pita bread]

The Morel Etudes have no given key and rely on swarms of accidentals. I believe they are also in mixed-meter, but I gave my copy of the sheets away so I don't know for sure.

None of the pieces you listed are particularly hard. The Morel #2 very dramatic and interesting and sounds much more difficult than it is while the #1 is pretty uneventful.

[lagin]

Thanks Pita, I was thinking it might not have a key.  It sounded pretty intense from what I could remember of it.  Now how about the Barber anyone??  And if anyone has the sheets to these or Schubert Impromptu in A major, opus 120, D 664, I would love to take a peek.  Yes, I know the Schubert is on here as a gold member, which I am not, but I don't want to sign on just for that one piece.

[prettypianoplaying]

lagin,

Barber #3 is in common time.  Its not that easy as it sounds though....the main theme's rhthym is 7 against 8 (7 eighth notes in RH and 8 eighth notes in LH).  I suggest you get a recording if you're going to learn #3 because its very hard to teach the rhythm when the notes are actually played in terms of hands together.  Once you get the rhythm though, the rest of the aspects in the piece come naturally.  There are also parts where the LH stays with 8 eighth notes and the RH still does the 7 note rhythm but now it becomes dotted with extra notes in between the melody notes.  (thats the hardest part for me) and one more part where it's & in RH against i think it's 10 in LH. Those are pretty much the hardest parts that you'll focus much of your time on.

#4 is in cut time i think??  The hardest part is to play the  repeated notes in the RH very  very fast and making sure they ALL sound.  Otherwise it's pretty easy!

[lagin]

Thanks pretty piano playing!  Do you remember the keys?  I don't want to double up in my program.  Without me drawing it out, do you remember if there is a way to kind of "mathematically" make them line up?  I mean like how two against three lines up so evenly if you know how to do it.

[pianistimo]

vladamir horowitz premired barber's excursions in 1945.  in reading a bit about barber's sonata - seems that the 'home key' doesn't really appear until the end of the piece.  that's what's unique about barber.  you don't have a clue where he's going sometimes.  i think i have excursions around here somewhere.  i started working them a long time ago.  will look. in the sonata the article talked about 12 tone rows in some of it and a fugal movement.  seems that barber experimented a lot with harmonies and how close he could get 'to the line' of still maintaining form and rootedness - without being confined to it.

[lagin]

Come on, someone MUST have the scores or the recordings?  And if not, will someone kindly tell me what the best recordings of them are so I can buy them?

[lagin]

Okay, and I'm looking for a recording of MacDowell's Etude de concert, op. 36 as well.  And I was wondering if anyone knows the keys of those two Barber Excursions yet?

[lagin]

So, there are 10,000 + people on this forum, and nobody knows!  Surely someone must have the music?  (You don't need to tell me I'm being annoying; I already know that)

[pita bread]

Lagin, check your PM.

Excursion #3 is in Gb Major.

[lagin]

Thanks Pita, that is SO PERFECT!  My program was lacking in the Major key department, and the flat department, so it fits perfectly!

Edit: I just checked my PM *dances for joy*, yay, thank you Pita!  Now I get a sneak preview, cause my copy won't be sent from Vancouver for another week or 2!  Hoorah!

[nanabush]

From looking at the score off of gamingforce... I believe the 3rd excursion is in Gb major, and the 4th F major...kinda obvious


edit:  I noticed that like two ppl posted while I had this window open... so if this is repeated information, ignore.

[lagin]

Thanks Nanabush, it is obvious now that I have the score thanks to Pita bread!  How does one get into this gamingforce?  I've tried, but it's kind of confusing

[nanabush]

https://ca.geocities.com/cm_index/


that is the site linked from gamingforce with all the sheet music... but i'm pretty sure you still need a GF account

[lagin]

Thanks Nanabush.