Twos against Threes (Bernhard)

[chopinfan_22]

I need help with Twos against Threes in music. The piece I'm working on right now is Liszt's Consolation No. III. The piece is loaded with twos against threes, with an occasional four against three. I want to learn this song, not only because I like it, but because it also gives me a challenge. Bernhard, if you could give me any words of advice or threads that deal with twos against threes and fours against threes, I'd really appreciate it.

Thanks.

[dorfmouse]

Look under "Polyrhythms" in the search function, here is one helpful thread:

https://www.pianostreet.com/smf/index.php/topic,7077.msg78204.html#msg78204

(Sorry I'm not Bernhard   )

[tac-tics]

First of all, we all love Bernhard's replies, but this isn't BernhardStreet.com (although, if Bernhard does read this, that might not be a bad investment X-D)

Second, four words:

one cup-o'-tea

EDIT: misaligned ascii table removed =-[

[bernhard]

Here are some good and helpful threads dealing with this issue:

First get acquainted with the maths of it. You may be able to figure it out by reading these threads:

https://www.pianostreet.com/smf/index.php/board,1/topic,10974.10.html#msg115011
(detailed explanation of polirhythms on Chopin´s Op. 25 no. 1)

https://www.pianostreet.com/smf/index.php/topic,15801.0.html
(7s againt 8s)



then try these tricks:

https://pianoforum.net/smf/index.php/topic,2135.msg17950.html#msg17950
(How to use words to deal with 3 against 4)

https://pianoforum.net/smf/index.php/topic,2185.msg18517.html#msg18517
(3 x 2 – dropping notes)

https://pianoforum.net/smf/index.php/topic,2655.msg22751.html#msg22751
(triplets against eighths – diagrams)

https://pianoforum.net/smf/index.php/topic,4156.msg38585.html#msg38585
(coordinating cross-rhythms)

Best wishes,
Bernhard.

[bernhard]

First of all, we all love Bernhard's replies, but this isn't BernhardStreet.com (although, if Bernhard does read this, that might not be a bad investment X-D)

thank you

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