Piano Forum

Topic: ouch*  (Read 1898 times)

Offline bon_bear

  • PS Silver Member
  • Jr. Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 46
ouch*
on: March 06, 2006, 07:28:43 AM
 :-\ :-\ :'( :'(
It's been a while now. My arm is always hurting when I play the piano. It seems like the muscles of my left arm (ESPECIALLY THIS ARM) is really sore...(rite now too) I tried pressing my arm a little in which i thought it could at least help me take away the pain and obviously it did not.  :P Instead, it adds on the pain.
Is there any cure or tips or at least any massaging advices that could help me solve this problem?  ;D

it kinda feels like...you know how you usually feel after you get a shot? ... ><
My right hand is completely fine. but my left is killing me.

Tell me there's a cure. oh please tell me there's a cure >< lol.

Elizabear~ :'( :'(

Offline Tash

  • PS Silver Member
  • Sr. Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 2248
Re: ouch*
Reply #1 on: March 06, 2006, 09:06:43 AM
well first of all, stop playing until you work out why you're in pain. secondly, talk to your piano teacher about it. thirdly, go see a doctor or physio or someone to tell you what is going on. for a temporary thing, there's a variety of gels and painkillers that can help....i have next to no knowledge on physical injuries so your doctor is probably a much better option, or xvimbi might have a suggestion if he's around...
'J'aime presque autant les images que la musique' Debussy

Offline bon_bear

  • PS Silver Member
  • Jr. Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 46
Re: ouch*
Reply #2 on: March 06, 2006, 04:51:01 PM
Thanks Tash for your advices. :)
Right now, my left arm is so much better then yesterday but wen I play the piano again, it'll come back. I don't practise every single day for so and so many hours tho...I think that's what causing it.  I try to practise at least a few minutes everyday...but since skewl has taken place...lol ANYWAYS...

I'm pretty sure it's a minor minor minor problem compare to y'all...but I'd just don't want it to hurt everytime I play >.<

Elizabear~ >:(

 

Offline donjuan

  • PS Silver Member
  • Sr. Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 3139
Re: ouch*
Reply #3 on: March 06, 2006, 06:29:02 PM
sounds temporary and not serious like Carpel Tunnel syndrome or something bad requiring physiotherapy.  Take it easy!  Also, make sure your arms are relaxed while playing; if you notice that you are working harder than you think you should, bring the problem to your piano teacher and ask for advice. 

Also, check the height of your piano bench; I get sore shoulders from using a bench that is too high. 

Since the problem is in your left arm specifically, you may be subconsciously 'leaning on it' while playing. 

Offline crazy for ivan moravec

  • PS Silver Member
  • Sr. Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 604
Re: ouch*
Reply #4 on: March 06, 2006, 07:04:22 PM
take it easy is right, but i suggest that you have it checked now before it even gets worse.

these pains, other than if they were just muscles, are important to take notice of. muscles heal quickly.

tendons, nerves, other stuff heal like forever. what's even scarier are those little pains we feel that we always dismiss because they're just "little" anyway. these are signs of a slowly building up of tension which could lead to inflammation of tendons. once those tendons get inflammed, the bones will adjust to it, it becomes larger and stays that way and thus making you prone to inflammation even after it has healed. it will be months of no piano playing for you because the best treatment known so far is rest.

and what's the scariest? tension that we don't feel at all, but they do attack the tendons, it can build up. tension isn't necessarily felt right away. pain is felt but pain comes after tension. that's why we should always have our hands checked.

when you wake up in the morning, check it for any weird clicking, feeling, or whatever. that's one symptom. anyways, any pain is always worth to check, we're all pianists here and these hands are important.


- crazy
Well, keep going.<br />- Martha Argerich

Offline bon_bear

  • PS Silver Member
  • Jr. Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 46
Re: ouch*
Reply #5 on: March 09, 2006, 05:18:54 AM
 :) :) Hey~ Thanks for all your replies :D

Donjuan: Hmm..you're rite. Even though I don't realise it, ppl tell me to relax my shoulders when i play...but as i said b4, i don't even realise I'm doing it...it's all part of my movement lol...if you all noe wat i mean...my left arm started to hurt again yesterday when i was taking my shower...lol funny eh? It was hurting from the needle spot to the muscle area...lol watever you call it.. But i took my shots on January 26. so...it should be ok by now...and wen typing, my fingers get tired easily compared to the past...

Crazy: Thanks for telling/warning/advising me! I'm pretty sure it's really a minor problem since it doesn't come to me every single day...it's here sometimes wen i play too long...

Do you all think if I practise more hours it will grow out the pain? So I get use to it and...?

Thanks again!~
Elizabear~ :P

Offline henrah

  • PS Silver Member
  • Sr. Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 1476
Re: ouch*
Reply #6 on: March 09, 2006, 04:56:59 PM
these are signs of a slowly building up of tension which could lead to inflammation of tendons. once those tendons get inflammed, the bones will adjust to it, it becomes larger and stays that way and thus making you prone to inflammation even after it has healed. it will be months of no piano playing for you because the best treatment known so far is rest.

Would a lump inside my wrist just inbetween the bones to my second and third finger (meaning index and middle, subconsciously counting my thumb as a finger :P) be similar to what you are explaining? It got kinda big a while ago, but has lessened. I've had it for quite a while, and keep putting off going to a doctor for no reason. I guess I'm just lazy. But should I worry about this? It doesn't cause me any pain, unless I push it really, really hard. And it's slightly moveable.
Henrah
Currently learning:<br />Liszt- Consolation No.3<br />J.W.Hässler- Sonata No.6 in C, 2nd mvt<br />Glière- No.10 from 12 Esquisses, Op.47<br />Saint-Saens- VII Aquarium<br />Mozart- Fantasie KV397<br /

Offline crazy for ivan moravec

  • PS Silver Member
  • Sr. Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 604
Re: ouch*
Reply #7 on: March 09, 2006, 05:22:22 PM
the inflammation of the tendons causes the pain, but it doesn't create any lump or has no sign of swelling outside because the swelling inside is not that big enough to be able to make it visible outside.

but once the tendon is inflammed, the bone gets bigger through the healing time because it has to adjust to that small swelling inside (and this is when hot compress and anti-inflammatory creams become useful, to prevent the bone from getting bigger by controlling the swelling twice a day with the creams and hot compress). if you don't aply this procedure, the the bone deformation will become permanent, making tendonitis prone to come back again. similar to arthritis, the bones get larger because they adjust to the swelling of the joints/ligaments.


check it out in the morning if it clicks. if not, it's ok. if there's no pain, better.

of course, the best solution is to have it checked if you're in doubt.
Well, keep going.<br />- Martha Argerich

Offline gruffalo

  • PS Silver Member
  • Sr. Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 1025
Re: ouch*
Reply #8 on: March 09, 2006, 05:55:52 PM
it could either be a serious problem, there are a few people get e.g. tennis elbow and other stuff. either that, or it is a problem that everybody experiences and has to practice around, which is tension. 9/10 when people complain of pains, it is due to tension that all people (especially if you dont practice full time) have to work around. if you cant identify where the tension is, you need your teacher to help you. also get physio anyway to make double sure it isnt anything serious.

Offline luvslive

  • PS Silver Member
  • Jr. Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 70
Re: ouch*
Reply #9 on: March 09, 2006, 09:12:00 PM
henrah:  i have a similar tiny hard bump under my wrist as well..its been there for years, and i was told that it is a calcium deposit.   when i pull my skin tight it really sticks out, but it hasn't caused me any harm yet.

Offline henrah

  • PS Silver Member
  • Sr. Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 1476
Re: ouch*
Reply #10 on: March 09, 2006, 10:03:44 PM
I hope that's what I have Luvslive...I hope......

Gonna call the Doctors tomorrow, I must find out if this can harm me.....
Currently learning:<br />Liszt- Consolation No.3<br />J.W.Hässler- Sonata No.6 in C, 2nd mvt<br />Glière- No.10 from 12 Esquisses, Op.47<br />Saint-Saens- VII Aquarium<br />Mozart- Fantasie KV397<br /

Offline bon_bear

  • PS Silver Member
  • Jr. Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 46
Re: ouch*
Reply #11 on: March 10, 2006, 04:07:34 AM
 :o :on Wow...everybody's either hurt or in pain... :-\
Good luck everyone :(
elizabear~

Offline henrah

  • PS Silver Member
  • Sr. Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 1476
Re: ouch*
Reply #12 on: March 13, 2006, 11:15:54 AM
Found out my lump was just a sist (sp?) and should go away on its own after a while thankgod!!

Glad I don't have anything detrimental to my piano playing...
Currently learning:<br />Liszt- Consolation No.3<br />J.W.Hässler- Sonata No.6 in C, 2nd mvt<br />Glière- No.10 from 12 Esquisses, Op.47<br />Saint-Saens- VII Aquarium<br />Mozart- Fantasie KV397<br /
For more information about this topic, click search below!

Piano Street Magazine:
Cremona Musica’s Piano Experience 2024 – Constantly Evolving Perspectives

In the end of September, the annual Cremona Musica 2024 exhibition, a significant global event, takes place providing novel insights into the music industry. As a member of the Media Lounge, Piano Street is pleased to offer a pianistic perspective on key events. Read more
 

Logo light pianostreet.com - the website for classical pianists, piano teachers, students and piano music enthusiasts.

Subscribe for unlimited access

Sign up

Follow us

Piano Street Digicert