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Offline stevie

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my first concert
on: March 11, 2006, 06:03:35 AM
 ;D

hahahahahahahaha randomly i will play one

i am thinking of what repertoire to play

knowing me minimally as you do, what would you all suggest for my black ass?

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Re: my first concert
Reply #1 on: March 11, 2006, 06:32:35 AM
Something with bags of virtuosic fireworks because that is what you enjoy and therefore you will be good at it and come across as sincere.
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Re: my first concert
Reply #2 on: March 11, 2006, 06:41:31 AM
probably some pieces

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Re: my first concert
Reply #3 on: March 11, 2006, 02:45:43 PM
what is your complete repertoire?
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Re: my first concert
Reply #4 on: March 11, 2006, 03:51:23 PM
Rach 1st and 2nd sonatas followed by all the scriabin sonatas, and 12 liszt transcendental etudes as an encore.. wow.. what a concert...
Tom
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Re: my first concert
Reply #5 on: March 11, 2006, 05:13:17 PM
what is your complete repertoire?

hahaha, it is minimal  :-[

but i have random sheet in process

possibly a selection of chopin and liszt etudes

maybe chopin ballade 1, possibly some alkan?

Something with bags of virtuosic fireworks because that is what you enjoy and therefore you will be good at it and come across as sincere.

hahaha indeed, but i have a sensetive side too, i may randomly include a chopin nocture or 2 8)

actually i forgot to mention, i dont have a teacher, and i have no social contacts that i know of that can help organize a concert for me, how can i randomly play a concert for people?

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Re: my first concert
Reply #6 on: March 11, 2006, 05:34:06 PM
alkan op 39 concerto would be good ive you're good. If not, no. 2 from the same set is nice and so is comme le vent - thats a good one for u too looking at your msn...
Tom
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Re: my first concert
Reply #7 on: March 11, 2006, 07:06:31 PM
ok ive done some thinking and have this idea -

chopin + chopin-godowsky 10/1
c+cg 10/2
c+cg 10/4
c+cg 10/5
c+cg 10/8
c+cg 10/12
c+cg 25/2
c+cg 25/6
c+cg 25/12

then hamelin triple etude, and finish with original 25/11

2nd half -

something that will fill approx 15 mins, i am thinking a selection of liszt etudes

then finishing off with - alkan symphony for solo piano

each half will be under 45 minutes


hows that sound?

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Re: my first concert
Reply #8 on: March 11, 2006, 07:54:33 PM
If you do Mazeppa under 6 minutes it sounds perfect.

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Re: my first concert
Reply #9 on: March 11, 2006, 07:55:31 PM
ok ive done some thinking and have this idea -

chopin + chopin-godowsky 10/1
c+cg 10/2
c+cg 10/4
c+cg 10/5
c+cg 10/8
c+cg 10/12
c+cg 25/2
c+cg 25/6
c+cg 25/12

then hamelin triple etude, and finish with original 25/11

2nd half -

something that will fill approx 15 mins, i am thinking a selection of liszt etudes

then finishing off with - alkan symphony for solo piano

each half will be under 45 minutes


hows that sound?

The program has the potential of being really boring...sorry man.  There are so many people who can play virtuoso pieces...but few who can do it musically.  If you can do it musically, and not just rattle off a bunch of notes, well then you're program could be very interesting...but it risks the audience missing Stevie the musical prodigy...they may just get Stevie the robot.
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Re: my first concert
Reply #10 on: March 11, 2006, 08:53:10 PM
The problem with that is that the Alkan Symphony is by far the most musically deep and substantial piece there. It's a damned good piece in any regard, one of the greats, but people don't know that coming in. People are going to look at that program and see it as a bunch of etudes and a composer they don't know, which will not work in your favor.

Juxtapose the Alkan with something people know is substantial and interesting. I know it's getting a bit redundant, but I can't emphasize enough how Alkan has the same sort of brilliant cerebral construction quality as Beethoven and Schubert. A Beethoven-Alkan or Schubert-Alkan concert would be great, perhaps with a bit of Chopin interspersed (Ballade 1 might work). Or make the first half a short Beethoven and then Chopin Sonata 2 or something.

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Re: my first concert
Reply #11 on: March 11, 2006, 09:05:02 PM
the point of that program is to do the most audaciously virtuosic program possible.

the first half is based on berezovsky's idea of filling half of a program with chopin etudes alternated with their respective godowsky equivelants, and i found this very exciting to listen to from a virtuosic perspective, and very interesting and appealing musically too, because being put side to side like this you can really tell whats so great about both the originals and the godowsky etudes.

i intend to play them to the best of my ability in every regard, including musically, so whos to say i cant?

ive messed around with many of the etudes and i have come up with ideas that i have for each of the pieces that i think would sound original.

im prepared to devote alot of time to these , and dont plan to do it any time soon, maybe in a couple years, so i dont think its too par fetched, possibly
The problem with that is that the Alkan Symphony is by far the most musically deep and substantial piece there. It's a damned good piece in any regard, one of the greats, but people don't know that coming in. People are going to look at that program and see it as a bunch of etudes and a composer they don't know, which will not work in your favor.

Juxtapose the Alkan with something people know is substantial and interesting. I know it's getting a bit redundant, but I can't emphasize enough how Alkan has the same sort of brilliant cerebral construction quality as Beethoven and Schubert. A Beethoven-Alkan or Schubert-Alkan concert would be great, perhaps with a bit of Chopin interspersed (Ballade 1 might work). Or make the first half a short Beethoven and then Chopin Sonata 2 or something.

i realize all of this, but i think people may be attracted by the chopin, and interested to hear the godowsky, and i think that most people that are interested in the virtuoso rep will have heard of alkan and will be curious

in constructing this recital, im basically listing what would personally be the most impressive program for me to hear a pianist play, so i vil do it myself, randomly

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Re: my first concert
Reply #12 on: March 12, 2006, 10:48:24 AM
can u really play all these? are you a concert pianist? whats ur real name? Hamelin? Volodos?
Tom
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Re: my first concert
Reply #13 on: March 12, 2006, 11:03:23 AM
can u really play all these? are you a concert pianist? whats ur real name? Hamelin? Volodos?
Tom

no, but i think i could learn them and play them at concert level within a couple of years

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Re: my first concert
Reply #14 on: March 12, 2006, 11:03:35 AM


chopin + chopin-godowsky 10/1
c+cg 10/2
c+cg 10/4
c+cg 10/5
c+cg 10/8
c+cg 10/12
c+cg 25/2
c+cg 25/6
c+cg 25/12

s that sound?

 The original Chopin Etude will sound great, but the Godowsky, mmmmmmmmmm
probably a good idea to play in privat to further develop your understanding of the piano. In all honesty playing the GOdowsky is like playing a c major scale on stage before playing Chopins op10 num 1.  ::)
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Re: my first concert
Reply #15 on: March 12, 2006, 11:37:07 AM
the godowsky 2 handed 10/1 is a better piece of music than the chopin 10/1 original, IMO.

many of them , if not as great as the original, are at least very interesting and musically worthwhile on their own, and some can even be better, so why not play them?

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Re: my first concert
Reply #16 on: March 12, 2006, 08:57:56 PM
ok ive done some thinking and have this idea -

chopin + chopin-godowsky 10/1
c+cg 10/2
c+cg 10/4
c+cg 10/5
c+cg 10/8
c+cg 10/12
c+cg 25/2
c+cg 25/6
c+cg 25/12

then hamelin triple etude, and finish with original 25/11

2nd half -

something that will fill approx 15 mins, i am thinking a selection of liszt etudes

then finishing off with - alkan symphony for solo piano

each half will be under 45 minutes


hows that sound?

I'd go watch it  8)
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Re: my first concert
Reply #17 on: March 12, 2006, 10:25:25 PM
ok ive done some thinking and have this idea -

chopin + chopin-godowsky 10/1
c+cg 10/2
c+cg 10/4
c+cg 10/5
c+cg 10/8
c+cg 10/12
c+cg 25/2
c+cg 25/6
c+cg 25/12

then hamelin triple etude, and finish with original 25/11

2nd half -

something that will fill approx 15 mins, i am thinking a selection of liszt etudes

then finishing off with - alkan symphony for solo piano

each half will be under 45 minutes


hows that sound?
nauseating.

..still waiting for a forum recording from you..
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