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on: March 19, 2006, 02:38:11 AM
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Re: Why?
Reply #1 on: March 19, 2006, 03:30:34 AM
Yeah, why weren't they jailed for life?  Or castrated?  Seriously.
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Reply #2 on: March 19, 2006, 03:40:52 AM
Yeah, why weren't they jailed for life?  Or castrated?  Seriously.

Yes, that too. But more importantly,  why little boys!!!!!!? >:(

Seriously.

***, why even little!?

Is there something about little boys that just makes freaks gravitate toward them?

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Reply #3 on: March 19, 2006, 04:10:54 AM
I didn't read that far, nor did I wish to!  It's sickning.  If people don't have a standard in their lives eventually everything goes.  I mean look at where today's society is going?  What makes me mad is that people say this is wrong but that other stuff isn't!  Like where do you draw the line?  People say homosexuality is okay because they are just "born that way."  Well, if "freaks" as you call them are born with a natural tendacy towards "little" boys, then by the above logic, it must be okay.  People say rape is bad because both parties aren't in agreement while with homosexuality both are in agreement.  Well, maybe not all of those little kids were complaining!  Maybe some didn't mind it.   I'm going to start something here I know, and I'm going to be doubly annoying and not continue it!  I'm venting because stuff like this makes me sick, and yet other stuff that makes me sick, as well (not just homosexuality), is "okay."  What I mean is, how long before this incident becomes "okay" too? 

I'm not trying to just pick on homosexuals here, it's just that, that happened to be one of the most recent things that has now legally become "okay."  I could mention divorce (Does anyone SEE what happens to the children in these situations?).  I could mention how some girls dress these days, or rather how they don't dress :P.  I could mention another big one - ABORTION.  It's been scientifically proven that it IS a real baby after conception.  In fact they already look like minature dolls with little fingers and everything only weeks after they are conceived!  Before you might even know you are pregnant!  And there are dozens of thing that start out small, but because no body has a point of reference in this "do what feels good" society, they go unchecked and lead to this kind of garbage.  It's good to know that at least there is still SOME punishment for things like rimv2 mentioned, though 6 years is rather a joke! 

So yeah, I'm just venting at the world in general.  If anyone wants to grab any one point above and make a debate out of it, feel free, but I'm not going to join in.  I ignore alot of rants against Christianity too, so please don't think I'm being biased in that respect.  I just don't have time to argue!  Or the desire to. 

I'm almost done ranting so don't worry.  Where was I?  Right.  Every says do what's right for you, but then where do you stop, yay know?  And the scary thing is, where would I personally be right now if it weren't for Jesus saving me?  (Yes, I cannot have a proper rant without bringing it back to Him.  It's just how I run my thought process - seriously I do).  I bet you I'd probably have had an abortion by now, or more likely given up a child.  I probably would have lost my virginity to a bunch of different joes.  I wouldn't have any set standards or purpose.  And I know for a fact, that my family would not be together as it was on the verge of divorse that my parents found God.  In fact, me and my mom had already left once.  Sometimes I get thinking that I'm better than those guys rimv2 brought up, but you know what?  I'm not.  I'm just as human.  Only by the grace of God have I been spared. 

Well, thanks for listening to my rant guys.  My friend has been in alot of trouble lately which helps set the mood for somber thoughts.  And I'm a bit of a hot head when it comes to right and wrong, which is good sometimes and bad sometimes.  Depends how I voice my thoughts I guess!  Anyway people, rip away, and if you REALLY REALLY need an argument with someone, find someone that has time for them.  I just start them! :D  No, seriously, pm me if you've got a serious beef, but other than that I think I feel alot better now that I'm done.  So much better that I'm going to eat cantalope and go to bed!
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Reply #4 on: March 19, 2006, 06:24:30 AM
I didn't read that far, nor did I wish to!  It's sickning.  If people don't have a standard in their lives eventually everything goes.  I mean look at where today's society is going?  What makes me mad is that people say this is wrong but that other stuff isn't!  Like where do you draw the line?  People say homosexuality is okay because they are just "born that way."  Well, if "freaks" as you call them are born with a natural tendacy towards "little" boys, then by the above logic, it must be okay.  People say rape is bad because both parties aren't in agreement while with homosexuality both are in agreement.  Well, maybe not all of those little kids were complaining!  Maybe some didn't mind it.   I'm going to start something here I know, and I'm going to be doubly annoying and not continue it!  I'm venting because stuff like this makes me sick, and yet other stuff that makes me sick, as well (not just homosexuality), is "okay."  What I mean is, how long before this incident becomes "okay" too? 

I'm not trying to just pick on homosexuals here, it's just that, that happened to be one of the most recent things that has now legally become "okay."  I could mention divorce (Does anyone SEE what happens to the children in these situations?).  I could mention how some girls dress these days, or rather how they don't dress :P.  I could mention another big one - ABORTION.  It's been scientifically proven that it IS a real baby after conception.  In fact they already look like minature dolls with little fingers and everything only weeks after they are conceived!  Before you might even know you are pregnant!  And there are dozens of thing that start out small, but because no body has a point of reference in this "do what feels good" society, they go unchecked and lead to this kind of garbage.  It's good to know that at least there is still SOME punishment for things like rimv2 mentioned, though 6 years is rather a joke! 

So yeah, I'm just venting at the world in general.  If anyone wants to grab any one point above and make a debate out of it, feel free, but I'm not going to join in.  I ignore alot of rants against Christianity too, so please don't think I'm being biased in that respect.  I just don't have time to argue!  Or the desire to. 

I'm almost done ranting so don't worry.  Where was I?  Right.  Every says do what's right for you, but then where do you stop, yay know?  And the scary thing is, where would I personally be right now if it weren't for Jesus saving me?  (Yes, I cannot have a proper rant without bringing it back to Him.  It's just how I run my thought process - seriously I do).  I bet you I'd probably have had an abortion by now, or more likely given up a child.  I probably would have lost my virginity to a bunch of different joes.  I wouldn't have any set standards or purpose.  And I know for a fact, that my family would not be together as it was on the verge of divorse that my parents found God.  In fact, me and my mom had already left once.  Sometimes I get thinking that I'm better than those guys rimv2 brought up, but you know what?  I'm not.  I'm just as human.  Only by the grace of God have I been spared. 

Well, thanks for listening to my rant guys.  My friend has been in alot of trouble lately which helps set the mood for somber thoughts.  And I'm a bit of a hot head when it comes to right and wrong, which is good sometimes and bad sometimes.  Depends how I voice my thoughts I guess!  Anyway people, rip away, and if you REALLY REALLY need an argument with someone, find someone that has time for them.  I just start them! :D  No, seriously, pm me if you've got a serious beef, but other than that I think I feel alot better now that I'm done.  So much better that I'm going to eat cantalope and go to bed!

Good, bad, better, worse, normal, and not.

Said nothing of it.

WHY's the question.

So many go without lovin.

Some get too much.

Where's the love in touching little boys.

Selfish is what it is.

The older ones knew what they were getting into.

Victims they aint.

By why the little ones?

Plenty enough big ones to go round.

Lots willing.

But they went for them all.

No sizes were spared.

There will be justice.

Natural justice.

The lowest of the low have to be protected from the low.

Touched a killer's son.

A thiefs brother.

The cousin of a friend.

How long before it catches up.

Ah say they be hung by their balls and have there intestine removed from its nice packaging.

They could survive for hours, days, weeks, months, years with the right care.

Only their cold guts lied out before them to remind them of their crime.

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here do you draw the line?  People say homosexuality is okay because they are just "born that way."  Well, if "freaks" as you call them are born with a natural tendacy towards "little" boys, then by the above logic, it must be okay.

You'd still love your brother if he was gay. What if he fucked your eight year old son? >:(
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Re: Why?
Reply #5 on: March 19, 2006, 07:54:58 AM
I didn't read that far, nor did I wish to!  It's sickning.  If people don't have a standard in their lives eventually everything goes.  I mean look at where today's society is going?  What makes me mad is that people say this is wrong but that other stuff isn't!  Like where do you draw the line?  People say homosexuality is okay because they are just "born that way."  Well, if "freaks" as you call them are born with a natural tendacy towards "little" boys, then by the above logic, it must be okay.  People say rape is bad because both parties aren't in agreement while with homosexuality both are in agreement.  Well, maybe not all of those little kids were complaining!  Maybe some didn't mind it.   I'm going to start something here I know, and I'm going to be doubly annoying and not continue it!  I'm venting because stuff like this makes me sick, and yet other stuff that makes me sick, as well (not just homosexuality), is "okay."  What I mean is, how long before this incident becomes "okay" too? 

I'm not trying to just pick on homosexuals here, it's just that, that happened to be one of the most recent things that has now legally become "okay."  I could mention divorce (Does anyone SEE what happens to the children in these situations?).  I could mention how some girls dress these days, or rather how they don't dress :P.  I could mention another big one - ABORTION.  It's been scientifically proven that it IS a real baby after conception.  In fact they already look like minature dolls with little fingers and everything only weeks after they are conceived!  Before you might even know you are pregnant!  And there are dozens of thing that start out small, but because no body has a point of reference in this "do what feels good" society, they go unchecked and lead to this kind of garbage.  It's good to know that at least there is still SOME punishment for things like rimv2 mentioned, though 6 years is rather a joke! 

So yeah, I'm just venting at the world in general.  If anyone wants to grab any one point above and make a debate out of it, feel free, but I'm not going to join in.  I ignore alot of rants against Christianity too, so please don't think I'm being biased in that respect.  I just don't have time to argue!  Or the desire to. 

I'm almost done ranting so don't worry.  Where was I?  Right.  Every says do what's right for you, but then where do you stop, yay know?  And the scary thing is, where would I personally be right now if it weren't for Jesus saving me?  (Yes, I cannot have a proper rant without bringing it back to Him.  It's just how I run my thought process - seriously I do).  I bet you I'd probably have had an abortion by now, or more likely given up a child.  I probably would have lost my virginity to a bunch of different joes.  I wouldn't have any set standards or purpose.  And I know for a fact, that my family would not be together as it was on the verge of divorse that my parents found God.  In fact, me and my mom had already left once.  Sometimes I get thinking that I'm better than those guys rimv2 brought up, but you know what?  I'm not.  I'm just as human.  Only by the grace of God have I been spared. 

Well, thanks for listening to my rant guys.  My friend has been in alot of trouble lately which helps set the mood for somber thoughts.  And I'm a bit of a hot head when it comes to right and wrong, which is good sometimes and bad sometimes.  Depends how I voice my thoughts I guess!  Anyway people, rip away, and if you REALLY REALLY need an argument with someone, find someone that has time for them.  I just start them! :D  No, seriously, pm me if you've got a serious beef, but other than that I think I feel alot better now that I'm done.  So much better that I'm going to eat cantalope and go to bed!

Someone's been up a little to late past their bedtime.  ;D

Sorry.

I'm not picking on you lagin, and I get the point you're trying to make, but that was the longest, rambling vent I've seen in a long time.  :-\

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Reply #6 on: March 19, 2006, 03:51:06 PM
Yeah, I know, I 'm suppost to be staying out of this! ;D  In reply to cosine, yep I was definately up past my bedtime.  I still agree with everything I typed, but late nights do = long rants!  And in reply to rimv2,  I have nothing against gay people just "gayness."  Does that make sense?  Like I said, I too am just human and only by the grace of God have been spared alot of garbage I know I would have gotten myself into if it were not for Him.  If he raped my son, I would be furious.  I would definately agree he deserves life sentence or worse.  I would not like him at all.  BUT I would still love him.  Not in the sense of "Oh, you are just the bestest dear brother of mine!"  But love in the sense that I would not wish to see him spend eternity in hell no matter what he did.  Love that would, even under all the anger, hope that he would turn his life around.  Love does not mean you pretend everything is cool and alright.  It's okay to be angry, even furious at what people do.  But for me, it's not okay to hate them to the point of wishing them eternity in hell.  That kind of hate is also self destructive for yourself too.  (Don't get me wrong, they still must be punished for actions = consequences, and that's why I agree with life sentence, death sentence, ect.  and other things like that which are rarely done anymore). 

I better stop before I rant again!  I will add one more thing though.  I don't know if you have read any of those true stories of pursecuted Christians?  There are lots of books out their and stories from those who survived.  Anyway, you will find a common thread in almost all of them.  They forgave their oppressors.  Sometimes even to their face.  They did not like them.  But the LOVED them and pitied their lost state because they relized that without Jesus it could have been them in the oppressor's shoes.  I share a faith with those people.  We worship the same God, and he gives us the power to forgive, even if we do not like.  (Hey, I do not like my grandmother, but I pity her and forgive her.  Yeah, I'm human and I still have to try not to want to "get her back," but God is gracious and He helps me "put to death" those self destructive feelings.  - Long story, but a good example -

Was that shorter?  Probably not :P
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Reply #7 on: March 20, 2006, 08:05:05 AM
I didn't read that far, nor did I wish to! It's sickning. If people don't have a standard in their lives eventually everything goes. I mean look at where today's society is going? What makes me mad is that people say this is wrong but that other stuff isn't! Like where do you draw the line? People say homosexuality is okay because they are just "born that way." Well, if "freaks" as you call them are born with a natural tendacy towards "little" boys, then by the above logic, it must be okay. People say rape is bad because both parties aren't in agreement while with homosexuality both are in agreement. Well, maybe not all of those little kids were complaining! Maybe some didn't mind it. I'm going to start something here I know, and I'm going to be doubly annoying and not continue it! I'm venting because stuff like this makes me sick, and yet other stuff that makes me sick, as well (not just homosexuality), is "okay." What I mean is, how long before this incident becomes "okay" too?

I'm not trying to just pick on homosexuals here, it's just that, that happened to be one of the most recent things that has now legally become "okay." I could mention divorce (Does anyone SEE what happens to the children in these situations?). I could mention how some girls dress these days, or rather how they don't dress :P. I could mention another big one - ABORTION. It's been scientifically proven that it IS a real baby after conception. In fact they already look like minature dolls with little fingers and everything only weeks after they are conceived! Before you might even know you are pregnant! And there are dozens of thing that start out small, but because no body has a point of reference in this "do what feels good" society, they go unchecked and lead to this kind of garbage. It's good to know that at least there is still SOME punishment for things like rimv2 mentioned, though 6 years is rather a joke!

So yeah, I'm just venting at the world in general. If anyone wants to grab any one point above and make a debate out of it, feel free, but I'm not going to join in. I ignore alot of rants against Christianity too, so please don't think I'm being biased in that respect. I just don't have time to argue! Or the desire to.

I'm almost done ranting so don't worry. Where was I? Right. Every says do what's right for you, but then where do you stop, yay know? And the scary thing is, where would I personally be right now if it weren't for Jesus saving me? (Yes, I cannot have a proper rant without bringing it back to Him. It's just how I run my thought process - seriously I do). I bet you I'd probably have had an abortion by now, or more likely given up a child. I probably would have lost my virginity to a bunch of different joes. I wouldn't have any set standards or purpose. And I know for a fact, that my family would not be together as it was on the verge of divorse that my parents found God. In fact, me and my mom had already left once. Sometimes I get thinking that I'm better than those guys rimv2 brought up, but you know what? I'm not. I'm just as human. Only by the grace of God have I been spared.

Well, thanks for listening to my rant guys. My friend has been in alot of trouble lately which helps set the mood for somber thoughts. And I'm a bit of a hot head when it comes to right and wrong, which is good sometimes and bad sometimes. Depends how I voice my thoughts I guess! Anyway people, rip away, and if you REALLY REALLY need an argument with someone, find someone that has time for them. I just start them! :D No, seriously, pm me if you've got a serious beef, but other than that I think I feel alot better now that I'm done. So much better that I'm going to eat cantalope and go to bed!

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Reply #8 on: March 20, 2006, 02:29:17 PM
Haha, that made me laugh at 6:30 in the morning and it takes alot to just get me even talking at that time so thanks!
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Reply #9 on: March 20, 2006, 03:42:38 PM
Here's another "why?" for you

https://www.iranfocus.com/modules/news/article.php?storyid=5184

Maybe this article has left out some details as it seems to be a very anti-iran website, but still....it kind of makes you hate Iran (again possibly the point of this website).

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Reply #10 on: March 21, 2006, 05:05:48 AM
Here's another "why?" for you

https://www.iranfocus.com/modules/news/article.php?storyid=5184

Maybe this article has left out some details as it seems to be a very anti-iran website, but still....it kind of makes you hate Iran (again possibly the point of this website).



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Reply #11 on: March 22, 2006, 07:08:36 PM
homosexuals have viable consent from one another to engage in intimate activities or relationships..

in rapists/pedophiles/etc..there is excessive force on one part, and an undermined unwillingness to participate on the other side...


where the hell does one draw the conclusion that they are equal in concept?..


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Reply #12 on: March 22, 2006, 10:43:26 PM
homosexuals have viable consent from one another to engage in intimate activities or relationships..

in rapists/pedophiles/etc..there is excessive force on one part, and an undermined unwillingness to participate on the other side...


where the hell does one draw the conclusion that they are equal in concept?..


one again...i must emphasize the importance of



because i really just have no idea what your talking about lagin
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Reply #13 on: March 23, 2006, 03:21:43 AM
hiberian suskie is messed up
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Reply #14 on: March 23, 2006, 06:31:52 AM
Yeah, I know, I 'm suppost to be staying out of this! ;D  In reply to cosine, yep I was definately up past my bedtime.  I still agree with everything I typed, but late nights do = long rants!  And in reply to rimv2,  I have nothing against gay people just "gayness."  Does that make sense?  Like I said, I too am just human and only by the grace of God have been spared alot of garbage I know I would have gotten myself into if it were not for Him.  If he raped my son, I would be furious.  I would definately agree he deserves life sentence or worse.  I would not like him at all.  BUT I would still love him.


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Ah'd kill him. Ah might be in pain or in prison for a while, but eventually ahd get over it (his death, that is).


 
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Not in the sense of "Oh, you are just the bestest dear brother of mine!"  But love in the sense that I would not wish to see him spend eternity in hell no matter what he did.  Love that would, even under all the anger, hope that he would turn his life around.  Love does not mean you pretend everything is cool and alright.  It's okay to be angry, even furious at what people do.  But for me, it's not okay to hate them to the point of wishing them eternity in hell.  That kind of hate is also self destructive for yourself too.


Ahd glady go to hell if ah could takes all those fuckers with me. >:(


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I better stop before I rant again!  I will add one more thing though.  I don't know if you have read any of those true stories of pursecuted Christians?  There are lots of books out their and stories from those who survived.  Anyway, you will find a common thread in almost all of them.  They forgave their oppressors.  Sometimes even to their face.  They did not like them.  But the LOVED them and pitied their lost state because they relized that without Jesus it could have been them in the oppressor's shoes. 

Yes and their oppressor's felt guilt and pain inside, and they all decided to repent for their actions. They sat together drinking tea and sharing stories. Who could tell they had such horrible pasts? Through religion, the hearts of the ruthless and sadistic were touched and the world was a better place. Until the priests started touching their children, that is >:(.

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I share a faith with those people.  We worship the same God, and he gives us the power to forgive, even if we do not like.  (Hey, I do not like my grandmother, but I pity her and forgive her.  Yeah, I'm human and I still have to try not to want to "get her back," but God is gracious and He helps me "put to death" those self destructive feelings.  - Long story, but a good example -

Hmmm... Ahll leave this part alone >:(
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