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Offline ce nedra

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Olympic Airlines
on: March 20, 2006, 09:35:20 PM
Okay, there is a chance that me and a few others (including my piano professor etc) will be flying a very long international trip on this airline... Now, its great fares, the best I have found so far (which is probably why we will fly with them- low budget trip).... but... I have just read reviews on them, and I am starting to worry.. it doesnt look very good... I would very much like to come back form this trip alive, in one piece, and healthy...

Has anyone here flown with them? If so, what are your experiences, feedback, comments etc??
I must know asap... if I am to organise something else I will have to do ity sooner rather than later..

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Offline ce nedra

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Re: Olympic Airlines
Reply #1 on: March 22, 2006, 01:14:34 PM
Hello?

I want to live through this trip... preferably...
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Re: Olympic Airlines
Reply #2 on: March 22, 2006, 01:43:46 PM
there are lots of cheap airlines. what you are paying for nowadays (in terms of airlines) is the service, quality and luxury and not the technology. you dont worry about going down by flying a cheap airline, you worry about weather, and bad luck if there is a leak or a fault in some part of the plane. there was a time when companies were more reliable, but planes have been around for a long time, the technology is sufficient enough for all companies to have safely built and designed planes.

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Re: Olympic Airlines
Reply #3 on: March 22, 2006, 03:44:58 PM
Hello?

I want to live through this trip... preferably...

ce nedra,

Statistically, there is a greater chance you will die in a car accident on the way to the airport. Now, enjoy your flight.

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Re: Olympic Airlines
Reply #4 on: March 22, 2006, 03:46:39 PM
Plane accidents are very rare. Pianolearner is right. Your fear is irrational so no rational argument can take it away.
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Re: Olympic Airlines
Reply #5 on: March 22, 2006, 10:36:24 PM
I have been on dozens of flights cheap/premium, it basicaly accounts to the quality of food you get on board. (safety is a fundemental issue every airline take seriously as accidents would cause unconfidence for the opperators. plus all airlines are regulated by law to follow health and safety. Weather its budget or not :)
Even still I always panic when on the runway especialy on take off when the engines make different noises, all I think of is my impending death :)
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Re: Olympic Airlines
Reply #6 on: March 24, 2006, 10:06:18 PM
I am not worried about crashing. I am worried about dying of food poisoning, lack of hygiene and just plain filthiness. I have heard it is revolting on those planes. The air hostesses smoke and treat you badly and the seats are extremely uncomfortable....
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Re: Olympic Airlines
Reply #7 on: March 25, 2006, 07:20:34 AM
I am not worried about crashing. I am worried about dying of food poisoning, lack of hygiene and just plain filthiness. I have heard it is revolting on those planes. The air hostesses smoke and treat you badly and the seats are extremely uncomfortable....

Bring your own meal, and one for the pilots too  ;D

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Re: Olympic Airlines
Reply #8 on: March 25, 2006, 01:28:47 PM
Do you know that the pilot and co pilot have to have different meals to one another :)
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Re: Olympic Airlines
Reply #9 on: March 25, 2006, 04:46:06 PM
Do you know that the pilot and co pilot have to have different meals to one another :)

I did know this, but it's not so strange. I've been on a few flights where the passenger next to me has had a different meal to me.

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Re: Olympic Airlines
Reply #10 on: March 26, 2006, 10:50:33 PM
when i went to NYC in jan i was so scare of flying so I read a 12 page free course online and it really really helped - i suggest checkin it out if any of you have a fear of flying like myself

the course is by a pilot and he covers EVERYTHING

excellent reading

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Re: Olympic Airlines
Reply #11 on: March 27, 2006, 02:05:28 PM
The most 'important' people in the world are on planes constantly.

The only thing you should worry about is the pollution of the plane and maybe the increased radioacticity you are exposed to.
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Re: Olympic Airlines
Reply #12 on: March 28, 2006, 12:54:41 AM
maybe it depends on the pilots, too?  but, how can one choose whom they want to fly with at short notice.  you'd have to get to know all the pilots and ask who had the most experience and yet didn't take radical chances as mature pilots are prone to do.  on one of my flights over anchorage a pilot did a huge wing dip and thought he was doing all of us a service (so we could see more area of land).  it made me terribly sick and i don't particularly like looking at water or mountaintops from that angle. 

wonder if there's any way you can find out if this flight offers much compensation for late planes and bad weather.  some airlines give you hotel rooms and others make you wait and wait in the airport. 

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Re: Olympic Airlines
Reply #13 on: March 28, 2006, 09:23:04 PM
https://www.airlinequality.com/Forum/olymp.htm

That should explain my concern well enough. I have no fear of flying, dont get me wrong. Just fear of them.
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Re: Olympic Airlines
Reply #14 on: March 28, 2006, 10:48:31 PM
Their planes crash more often than other planes?
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Re: Olympic Airlines
Reply #15 on: March 31, 2006, 10:22:02 AM
What utter rubbish. Who says these things? Fly with another company if you feel so scared; however, to my knowledge their safety precautions are known as extremely thorough and no plane of theirs has ever crashed. On a side-note, I've flown with many companies and their food was the best in comparison. Of course, these things change overtime so you're free to feel as mistrustful as you like.

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Re: Olympic Airlines
Reply #16 on: March 31, 2006, 02:32:36 PM
It is absurd. Just book with another company and then find reviews on the same site to scare yourself again.

I don't really understand, you fear their plane, with you on it, is going to crash because people report bad means and sloppy service?


Their planes do crach, look here:

Incidents and accidents

    * October 29, 1959: An Olympic Airways Douglas Aircraft Company DC-3 crashed near Athens, Greece. All 18 passengers and crew (15 passengers and 3 crew members) perished
    * December 8, 1969: An Olympic Airways Douglas DC-6 crashed near Keratea, Athens, Greece. All 90 passengers and crew (85 passengers and 5 crew members) perished
    * February 18, 1972: An Olympic Aviation Learjet crashed off the coast of Monte Carlo. All 2 crew members were killed.
    * October 21, 1972: An Olympic Airways NIHON YS-11 crashed off the coast of Voula, Athens, Greece. 37 passengers and crew (36 passengers and 1 crew member) drowned, while 16 passengers and 3 crew members were rescued.
    * November 23, 1976: An Olympic Airways NIHON YS-11 crashed near Kozani, Greece. All 46 passengers and 4 crew members perished.
    * August 3, 1989: An Olympic Aviation Shorts 330 crashed near Samos Airport, Greece. All 31 passengers and 3 crew members were killed.


I guess that if you want to scare yourself I will give you a hand...
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Re: Olympic Airlines
Reply #17 on: March 31, 2006, 03:54:40 PM
It is absurd. Just book with another company and then find reviews on the same site to scare yourself again.

I don't really understand, you fear their plane, with you on it, is going to crash because people report bad means and sloppy service?


Their planes do crach, look here:

Incidents and accidents

    * October 29, 1959: An Olympic Airways Douglas Aircraft Company DC-3 crashed near Athens, Greece. All 18 passengers and crew (15 passengers and 3 crew members) perished
    * December 8, 1969: An Olympic Airways Douglas DC-6 crashed near Keratea, Athens, Greece. All 90 passengers and crew (85 passengers and 5 crew members) perished
    * February 18, 1972: An Olympic Aviation Learjet crashed off the coast of Monte Carlo. All 2 crew members were killed.
    * October 21, 1972: An Olympic Airways NIHON YS-11 crashed off the coast of Voula, Athens, Greece. 37 passengers and crew (36 passengers and 1 crew member) drowned, while 16 passengers and 3 crew members were rescued.
    * November 23, 1976: An Olympic Airways NIHON YS-11 crashed near Kozani, Greece. All 46 passengers and 4 crew members perished.
    * August 3, 1989: An Olympic Aviation Shorts 330 crashed near Samos Airport, Greece. All 31 passengers and 3 crew members were killed.


I guess that if you want to scare yourself I will give you a hand...


prometheus,

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