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Comparative Difficulty of the Chopin Etudes III
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Which of the following Etudes do you consider the technically most difficult?
10/5
2 (5.4%)
10/7
3 (8.1%)
10/8
2 (5.4%)
10/10
3 (8.1%)
10/11
2 (5.4%)
10/12
2 (5.4%)
25/1
3 (8.1%)
25/2
4 (10.8%)
25/3
1 (2.7%)
25/4
3 (8.1%)
25/5
0 (0%)
25/8
7 (18.9%)
25/9
1 (2.7%)
25/10
4 (10.8%)
Total Members Voted:
37
Voting closed:
April 03, 2006, 04:28:23 PM
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cloches_de_geneve
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Comparative Difficulty of the Chopin Etudes III
on: March 25, 2006, 10:31:02 AM
Based on a total of 89 votes obatined in Poll I (51) and Poll II (38), the following six etudes came up as the most difficult:
1. 25/6
2. 25/11
3. 10/2
4. 10/1
5. 10/4
5. 25/12 (tie with 10/4).
In the first Poll most votes went to the first three. In the second Poll, the first three were taken out, and now, most votes went to the second three (see the previous two comparative difficulty polls for details). For the current, third Poll both the first and second triad are taken out.
A few points deserve comment. The exact numeric rankings have to be taken with a grain of salt. It is safer to say that most pianists here agree that 10/2, 25/6 and 25/11 belong to the most difficult triad; and 10/1; 10/4 and 25/12 to the second most difficult triad.
As pointed out with good reason by some forum members, there are some problems with this kind of procedure and, therefore, the results have to be considered indicative; they are not conclusive. For example, the fact that 25/4 is never rated as most difficult could simply mean that very few pianists have played it. It does not necessarily indicate that it is considered easy. Lack of experience with certain etudes may lead to an underrating of their actual difficulty.
A further issue, brought up recurrently, is that all depends on the physical predispositions of the individual pianist -- due to this variation in predisposition it would make little sense to establish "general" rankings. The point of this poll is to identify those etudes that pose a physical challenge to a majority of individuals. The six etudes above appear to do so. But "majority" does not mean "everybody". Some pianists may well find 10/7 more challenging than 10/1, but for the majority it seems to be the other way around.
The aim of current Poll (Poll III) is to continue with this inquiry and obtain rankings of the remaining 14 Etudes (as mentioned, the slow Etudes do not appear here because their difficulties are of a special kind).
In a few days the rankings for these remaining etudes will be available.
Submit your vote!
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cherrysoda
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Re: Comparative Difficulty of the Chopin Etudes III
Reply #1 on: March 25, 2006, 11:06:42 AM
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sorry-I need to read the first post more thoroughly.
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chopinfan_22
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Re: Comparative Difficulty of the Chopin Etudes III
Reply #2 on: March 25, 2006, 12:57:00 PM
My vote went to 25/4 because of the left hand. You jump back and forth to every beat in the right hand. Jumping across the keys is something I can't do really well, so, technically, out of the selection, that appears to be the most difficult for me.
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e60m5
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Re: Comparative Difficulty of the Chopin Etudes III
Reply #3 on: March 25, 2006, 02:46:51 PM
Vote for 25/2 here.
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rob47
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Re: Comparative Difficulty of the Chopin Etudes III
Reply #4 on: March 25, 2006, 08:10:01 PM
10/8
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arensky
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Re: Comparative Difficulty of the Chopin Etudes III
Reply #5 on: March 25, 2006, 08:28:44 PM
In Poll II I voted for 25/8 (sixths), just voted for it again...
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cloches_de_geneve
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Re: Comparative Difficulty of the Chopin Etudes III
Reply #6 on: March 27, 2006, 04:22:39 PM
It's perfectly ok to vote again for an etude that you had already chosen in a previous poll.
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chromatickler
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Re: Comparative Difficulty of the Chopin Etudes III
Reply #7 on: March 28, 2006, 03:28:39 PM
25/8 or 25/4
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cloches_de_geneve
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Re: Comparative Difficulty of the Chopin Etudes III
Reply #8 on: April 02, 2006, 11:33:09 AM
Hope all the participants who wrote down their choice in a comment also actually voted using the poll. If not, please do so before the voting closes tomorrow. Thanks.
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Re: Comparative Difficulty of the Chopin Etudes III
Reply #9 on: April 02, 2006, 08:37:10 PM
Tie between 10/7 and 25/8 for me.
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