speed

[shannon piano-lover]

hello,
I am a kinda new pinao player, I have played for 2 years. (grade 2)
I have a problem of going to fast when playing.
I find it hard to keep the right tempo, I've tried tons of different ways.
When I really make myself go slower, to me , the song sounds not so good, like dull.
My mom hates when I go fast so thats why I really want to change it, also, I want to be good at play at different speeds and tempo's.
Thanks,
Pease give your thoughts of what could help!

[bernhard]

Have a look here :

https://pianoforum.net/smf/index.php/topic,3371.msg30141.html#msg30141
(zoom-zoom – all about speed playing – example: 3rd movt of Moonlight)

https://pianoforum.net/smf/index.php/topic,3778.msg35061.html#msg35061
(Speed: discussion about gradually speeding up with a metronome or using Chang’s approach)

https://pianoforum.net/smf/index.php/topic,4123.msg37829.html#msg37829
(How to investigate the best movement pattern: Example Scarlatti sonata K70 – How to work out the best fingering. Example: CPE Bach Allegro in A – Slow x slow motion practice – HS x HT – practising for only 5 – 10 minutes)

https://pianoforum.net/smf/index.php/topic,4851.msg47341.html#msg47341
(Practising for speed – Example: Beethoven Op. 49 no. 2)

https://pianoforum.net/smf/index.php/topic,5083.msg48306.html#msg48306
(More questions on fast speed practice – the eldorado analogy - collection of links)

https://pianoforum.net/smf/index.php/topic,2313.msg19807.html#msg19807
(Speed of scales – the important factors in speed playing - an alternative fingering for scales).

https://pianoforum.net/smf/index.php/topic,2920.msg25568.html#msg25568
(how to play superfast scales)

https://pianoforum.net/smf/index.php/topic,2076.msg17157.html#msg17157
(Speed – the 3 most important factors)

https://pianoforum.net/smf/index.php/topic,2230.msg20686.html#msg20686
(Octaves and fast octaves – excellent post by Robert Henry)

https://pianoforum.net/smf/index.php/topic,1808.msg23879.html#msg23879
(Ultra fast arpeggios – slow practice x slow motion practice – good post by Herve – Abby whiteside is also mentioned)

https://pianoforum.net/smf/index.php/topic,4164.msg39149.html#msg39149
(CC Chang and relaxation for playing fast passages)

https://pianoforum.net/smf/index.php/topic,4282.msg39831.html#msg39831
(How to increase speed: slowly using metronome x fast with chord attack – juggling and skiping rope as examples)

https://pianoforum.net/smf/index.php/topic,4144.msg40259.html#msg40259
(improving speed of LH – move the whole LH not only fingers)

https://www.pianoforum.net/smf/index.php/topic,8322.msg84686.html#msg84686
(speed and muscle tension – 3 important components of speed playing)

Best wishes,
Bernhard.

[rimv2]

hello,
I am a kinda new pinao player, I have played for 2 years. (grade 2)
I have a problem of going to fast when playing.
I find it hard to keep the right tempo, I've tried tons of different ways.
When I really make myself go slower, to me , the song sounds not so good, like dull.
My mom hates when I go fast so thats why I really want to change it, also, I want to be good at play at different speeds and tempo's.
Thanks,
Pease give your thoughts of what could help!

Break up a piece into sections. (search for bernhards theories on this)

Pick a section.

Start slow (around 40-60 bpm for a quarter note)

Play each and every note in your head before you play it. (helps tremedously)

Repeat the section seven times in a row perfectly. (if you cant do it perfectly make the section smaller.

Raise the Metronome 1 or 2 clicks.

Repeat the section seven times in a row perfectly.

Raise and repeat until you've raise the metronome 10 clicks higher from where you started. (if you started at 40 stop at 50) Thats between 40-70 reps of a single section.

Move the next section.

Repeat.

When you are done, your brain will be drained. (but only until you get used to it)

Start the next day at the speed you left off (50).

Repeat.

Dont follow this exactly. Mold it to suit you. But dont cheat. You'd be cheatiing yourself.

There is physical speed and mental speed. This is what ah do to build mental speed. Without mental speed, physical speed will be hard to control and you will make many many many mistakes. You will also waste many many many many hours of practice.

For physical speed ah work the other way around

EDIT:

*** the swift hands of Bernhard.

[maul]

the crystal.

[bach_ko]

Hi! let me helps u...
i would say playing a slow tempo piece is more difficult than playing a fast tempo piece, haha, it sounds weird right? if u don't have technical problems, of course u can play a fast tempo piece easily, but... but... a slow tempo piece, the speed shouldn't be dragging but it still in slow tempo, it's going and going without stopping, normally slow tempo piece will always make ppl feel sleepy, so what can we do for attract ppl's attention? as if walking slowly in a beautiful garden? (not like a car get stucked in traffic jam) first, u must have the correct pulse in heart, u can count it out of mouth if u like(count in pulse, not in quaver or crotchet beats), once u get the pulse i think u will be fine. i have the same problem as u, i tend to be faster and faster when i felt excited... so if u get distracted in counting while playing, i would suggest u to play with metronome, but don't rely on it, just for few times of practicing... cos it will affect ur playing sounds very metronomic... like robot! so once u get the speed, then play without metronome... haha... make the notes 'sing' would be better...

[shannon piano-lover]

Hello,
Thank you guys for all this info I will for sure try it!!!
Thanks!
 

[shannon piano-lover]

I tried some of those things when I was playing today and they are helping!
I'm sure after a while it will be much better!
Thanks for those sites too!
BYE