Ethnocentric Christianity at its Finest

[henrah]

I wonder what she'll think when she faces up to God and He tells her what he really thinks. Do you think she'll start argueing with him saying "You are not obeying your own scriptures. I am telling you of the wrath that you are pouring over yourself. You are flipping yourself off. Ooo, look at that smoke in your nose! Oh wait...is that a gun? No no....NOOO"

God: "Shut up biyatch." *turns to Peter* "Man she's annoying...I hope no one down there took her too seriously, otherwise I'm gonna have to start all over again."



Henrah

[pianowelsh]

In one sense youve got it ! each of us is accountable for how we act and what we say - noone escapes. It has to be said it is very easy though to point a finger at the speck we see in some ones eye - because they are on tv - and completely miss the fact that we can walk around with planks in our own in our daily lives.  As a christian i have to say that humility before God is very important - He is the judge and he is the justifier of anyone who trusts in Christ.  Noone is going to try and pick an argument with God in judgement - I guarentee you! How can you justify yourself infront of one who sees EVERYTHING and who is totally pure and holy and without any sin. There are no words you can use - no excuses you can pull. The accounts that we have of people who have even come close to the presence of God in the bible are pretty uniform in that they fell as if dead - they were rendered speachless they were disturbed to the very core of their being - Isaiah speaks about coming undone or feeling like he is falling apart at the seems before God.  Moses being in Gods presence his face shone in such away that he had to cover it because it freaked people out.  There is definately no way anyone could accuse God of not obeying his own scriptures because they are breathed by the Holy spirit (God) and there is no division or fractions within the God head they are and have always been in total unity of purpose even Jesus in a body of flesh and bones completely forfilled the scriptures so God is definately not going to struggle to do so - rest assured tonight Free speach is important - its a liberty we all enjoy and we would really struggle to function without it - we are truely blessed to have it - in some countries it is still not possible. However with free speach we also need discernment because not everything that people stand up and speak is well informed or correct. When it comes to biblical matters everything and i mean everything that is spoken needs to be weighed up checked confirmed and double checked by the word of God we are told in scripture that even if an angel from heaven is to come and proclaim to us another gospel other than scripture then they are to be eternally condemned. That is strong but it shows you how seriously God takes those people who would try and decieve people who cause them to stumble and turn away from the truth. It also reveals that Christians are expected to know the word of God so that when some one does teach wrong things that they can separate what is untrue from what is truth. For example in this case we can see that even if her point is correct (i refuse to comment on it) that her attitude in 'correction' was completely wrong because it wasnt dont in Love - Christians are given the directive to speak the truth in Love.  There isnt much love being demonstrated in staking out at someone funeral - thats just incredible bad taste!  And therefore you can see here just one example where scripture helps us identify what is truth and what is clearly out of line.  You have a very vivid imagination Henrah  but check out Revelation where it talks about the final judgement which is coming - it makes you proposition look positively tame - i wonder if angels know how to opperate guns??! probably not?? Laughing aside - it really isnt a funny issue becasue judgement is very real and we will all face it and be weighed in the balance so to speak. Praise God that Christ is Just and the justifier of those who trust in him for salvation and its completely of Gods unmerited favour not because I am good or have perfect theology or never sin but because as a christian I can come clothed in the righteousness of Christ which is sufficient. He has bought me out.  That much of what she said was true - judgement is real! the only way to be saved in that day same as now is trusting totally in Christ. Make your decision guys because we really dont know the hour or the day when he will come back.

[rob47]

In one sense youve got it ! each of us is accountable for how we act and what we say - noone escapes. It has to be said it is very easy though to point a finger at the speck we see in some ones eye - because they are on tv - and completely miss the fact that we can walk around with planks in our own in our daily lives.  As a christian i have to say that humility before God is very important - He is the judge and he is the justifier of anyone who trusts in Christ.  Noone is going to try and pick an argument with God in judgement - I guarentee you! How can you justify yourself infront of one who sees EVERYTHING and who is totally pure and holy and without any sin. There are no words you can use - no excuses you can pull. The accounts that we have of people who have even come close to the presence of God in the bible are pretty uniform in that they fell as if dead - they were rendered speachless they were disturbed to the very core of their being - Isaiah speaks about coming undone or feeling like he is falling apart at the seems before God.  Moses being in Gods presence his face shone in such away that he had to cover it because it freaked people out.  There is definately no way anyone could accuse God of not obeying his own scriptures because they are breathed by the Holy spirit (God) and there is no division or fractions within the God head they are and have always been in total unity of purpose even Jesus in a body of flesh and bones completely forfilled the scriptures so God is definately not going to struggle to do so - rest assured tonight Free speach is important - its a liberty we all enjoy and we would really struggle to function without it - we are truely blessed to have it - in some countries it is still not possible. However with free speach we also need discernment because not everything that people stand up and speak is well informed or correct. When it comes to biblical matters everything and i mean everything that is spoken needs to be weighed up checked confirmed and double checked by the word of God we are told in scripture that even if an angel from heaven is to come and proclaim to us another gospel other than scripture then they are to be eternally condemned. That is strong but it shows you how seriously God takes those people who would try and decieve people who cause them to stumble and turn away from the truth. It also reveals that Christians are expected to know the word of God so that when some one does teach wrong things that they can separate what is untrue from what is truth. For example in this case we can see that even if her point is correct (i refuse to comment on it) that her attitude in 'correction' was completely wrong because it wasnt dont in Love - Christians are given the directive to speak the truth in Love.  There isnt much love being demonstrated in staking out at someone funeral - thats just incredible bad taste!  And therefore you can see here just one example where scripture helps us identify what is truth and what is clearly out of line.  You have a very vivid imagination Henrah  but check out Revelation where it talks about the final judgement which is coming - it makes you proposition look positively tame - i wonder if angels know how to opperate guns??! probably not?? Laughing aside - it really isnt a funny issue becasue judgement is very real and we will all face it and be weighed in the balance so to speak. Praise God that Christ is Just and the justifier of those who trust in him for salvation and its completely of Gods unmerited favour not because I am good or have perfect theology or never sin but because as a christian I can come clothed in the righteousness of Christ which is sufficient. He has bought me out.  That much of what she said was true - judgement is real! the only way to be saved in that day same as now is trusting totally in Christ. Make your decision guys because we really dont know the hour or the day when he will come back.

Your faith seems very weak (no offence)

I hope one day you discover what it means to trust in god but until then I will pray for you so don't worry

[douxtigress]

I love my sean hannity. 

My mom watched the video with me and I thought she was about to rip the computer off the desk and destroy it she was so upset. That woman is the epitome of psycho, ignorance, and uncompassionate.

[maul]

A hot republican chick on a piano forum. Tis unheard of.

[henrah]

But what if God was into prostitution, snorting cocaine and murdering children - should we teach him the ways of his own scriptures? But how would that be possible without a holy connection with him, like Moses and others had?


Remember: This is a 'what if' situation, and most probably is far from the truth as far as anyone believes, so don't start grilling me for thinking of God as a child-murdering drug-taking guy who likes the occasional prostitute.
Henrah


EDIT: Maybe I shouldn't have asked that question, but it was burning in my mind what you christians might think if God was the epitome of the complete opposite of what you believe in. (Now I'm starting to think about the bread and fish miracle of Jesus, where I am replacing them with needles and heroin)

Ooo, this brings me onto something that I was thinking about a couple of days ago. There is some evidence to suggest that many people around the time of Jesus ate magic mushrooms, and other hallucinagenic substances, which gave them an exaggerated philosophical and religious experience. This might be related to the accounts of Jesus which apparently have no logical explanation and therefore become an act of God (where science can no longer explain)

* henrah for the second time,

Henrah

[donjuan]

There is some evidence to suggest that many people around the time of Jesus ate magic mushrooms, and other hallucinagenic substances, which gave them an exaggerated philosophical and religious experience. This might be related to the accounts of Jesus which apparently have no logical explanation and therefore become an act of God (where science can no longer explain)

now Jesus, drugs are bad, mmmkay?

[henrah]

;D;Dahhahaa great one Don ahahah;D;D;D

[rimv2]

I'd like to point out that Mr. Fag-hater is not a real Christian.  He considers himself a prophet and believes that anyone who does not support his particular cause will go to Hell. 

Sounds like a real Christian to me 







Creating god in one's own image.

Perhaps we should all try this....

[henrah]

I'd love to have a conversation with people that think that there way of living is what God wants - where it's completely the opposite - after they die and see what they think when God (if he exists) really tells them what he would have wanted from them.


I wonder how these people get such messed up ideas about how God wants them to live. I think I've come up with an explanation:

You know when some people say they just ask God, and he tells them what to do? Well I think that's just asking themselves, and the most obvious and righteous answer (to them) comes out on top, and so they do that. They are then using God as a means for their own answers, which they would have gotten without asking Him as they knew it all along subconsciously. Therefore, if someone who liked to murder suddenly turned to Christianity, and was told to 'listen to what God tells you', then s/he would kill people thinking that God is wanting them to do that, when they are really listening to themselves. This can apply to anyone with extreme views, and they can justify themselves with the thought that God wants them and is telling them to do those things that we think are so dispicable and horrid.

I think religion is a bit extreme, if you let it take control over your life. If you lose control of your own thoughts and actions, and let God take over, you are effectively letting yourself take control over yourself (which in logical terms is self control) but in a different manner as you don't realise that you have control over yourself. If you did have control (and not the control that you let someone else [effectively yourself] take over), then you would put more thought into your actions and consider other points of view and other means of getting things done, with other possibilities and outcomes. This I think is a healthy life, and not what that Shirley woman is living as she is letting her inner self (the part of her that was conditioned and taught by her parents and other figures which also held these extreme views) control her, like any sane person wouldn't.

I think my entire point is that she is just insane, aswell as the others in her family; and insane+religion is a bad mix, as 9/11 and 7/7 have shown. What I think I'm getting at is that these people who do these things (9/11 and 7/7) have not taken the liberty to ask themselves why they are doing the things they are doing, and really think about it, not instantly revert to whatever their 'leader' (be it their parents or religious authorative figure i.e. priest, or whatever the names are for the higher muslim figures) preaches to them.


Basically, to sum it up, people should think for themselves, and not mindlessly listen to and obey what other people say.  This, I think, is healthy living. Plus eating 5 fruit and veg a day obviously

Ramble over,
Henrah